"Redirecting" an article normally means editing the article to replace its
content with "#REDIRECT [[Target]]". It shouldn't affect the talk page
whatsoever.
What might be confusing is that, for example, if you redirect [[Foo]] to [[Bar]] (by
editing [[Foo]]'s content to be "#REDIRECT [[Bar]]"), by afterwards
navigating to the [[Foo]] page you are automatically redirected to [[Bar]] (that's the
whole point), which means the "Talk" tab at the top will lead to [[Talk:Bar]].
The talk page for [[Foo]] is still at [[Talk:Foo]] but to access it, you will need to
either navigate to it directly, or if you go to [[Foo]] and it loads [[Bar]], you should
have a note under the page header that says "(Redirected from [[Foo]])", where
you can click on the link to [[Foo]] and thus load the [[Foo]] page without being
redirected, and then the "Talk" tab will lead to [[Talk:Foo]].
Hopefully that makes sense! If you tell us exactly what page you're talking about
we'll be able to help you more precisely.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Wikipedia-l [mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Frederick
FN Noronha ????????? ???????? *??????? ???????
Sent: 23 déc. 2016 03:09
To: Wikipedia mailing list <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Losing the 'talk' discussion on a page....
This happened with me once. I redirected a page (for entirely legitimate reasons), and to
my surprise and horror found that the 'Talk' page accompanying it had more or less
vanished, and could not longer be easily accessed. Maybe it was still available
somewhere, but it was not easy to find, nor was it linked to the main entry of the page.
My intention in this case was not to hide the Talk page (since it had some valuable
discussion, and multiple points of view on it).
It just struck me that if there was some controversial content, the best way anyone
wanting to block or censor it (the Talk page) would be to redirect a page!
My question: (i) are the earlier talk pages easily find-able after a page has been
redirected elsewhere? (ii) is there some way they can be made prominent, so that the
earlier discussion is also available for the record?
Thanks and regards,
Frederick.
On 22 December 2016 at 21:15, Ben Salvidrim <benoit_landry(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:
If you tell us what page you’re talking about
Frederick, we might be
able to help you locate the talk page you can’t find. ☺
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-----Original Message-----
From: Wikipedia-l [mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On
Behalf Of Ynhockey
Sent: 22 déc. 2016 10:25
To: Wikipedia mailing list <wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Losing the 'talk' discussion on a page....
The person who moves the page can specify whether the talk page moves
with it, so either it moves with the actual page, or stays behind with
the old title. In any case it isn't deleted.
—Yan (User:Ynhockey).
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:01 AM, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक
नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا <fredericknoronha(a)gmail.com<mailtomailto:
fredericknoronha(a)gmail.com>> wrote:
Is this a bug or is it a feature?
Just wanted to know what happens to the
'talk' section of a
Wikipedia
entry once (or if) a page gets shifted.
I noticed that the earlier discussions (that
might have come up via
the
Talk) just disappears.
Now, this isn't very helpful. Because all the
earlier talk seems to
be
untraceable, and there is a complete vacuum about
what was said earlier.
If anyone wishes, this system can be abused (for
instance, to cover
earlier discussions... by simply changing the
title of the page).
Am I missing something here?
FN
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