Zoe wrote:
Toby Bartels wrote:
>Zoe wrote:
>>So what do you do when you've gone back 15
edits, reverted to a clean version,
>>incorporated all of the "good" changes that have happened since then,
and the
>>original perpetrator then comes along and adds his/her "bad" changes
again?
>>How long are you supposed to keep doing that?
>So that I can understand better where you're
coming from,
>is there an article whose history I should look at
>where you've had bad experience with uncooperative editors?
Check out all of Lir's edits in Christopher
Columbus and her comments in
Talk:Christopher Columbus.
I see that there was a nasty edit war early Sunday morning (UTC),
as well as some further controversy on other dates.
I also see that there was discussion on the talk page during this edit war.
In this discussion, Lir refused to provide any evidence
for her assertion that Colombo was primarily a slave trader
(and related matters). Once it was clear that she had nothing
to back up her claim, then nobody should have to explain themselves
when reverting Lir's actions any longer.
However, I don't see what purpose that edit war served.
It last for 4 hours, which is not very long in the scheme of Wikipedia.
It ended when Tokerboy put up a compromise version,
essentially the version that survives today.
For the vast majority of time, Lir's version
was not the version that would be presented to a newcomer.
Without banning Lir and the people like her,
it's inevitable that bad material will appear some of the time.
Actually, even with banning, that much is inevitable on a wiki.
But I don't see this as a problem, since these times will be rare.
Let's suppose that, instead of a 4 hour edit war,
there had been only the 4 hours of discussion on the talk page,
ending with Tokerboy's compromise as in real life.
Then Lir would have had 4 hours of slander on a page,
followed by the current week of a page improved by her involvement.
Of course you were frustrated at being involved in that edit war,
especially when Lir was simultaneously being such an @$$hole on talk.
But next time, don't put yourself through the edit war;
the talk page is enough (and enough to see Lir's true nature too).
-- Toby