On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 07:41:32AM -0700, Toby Bartels wrote:
Richard Grevers wrote in part:
You are comparing apples and oranges here... The
holocaust is knowable
because people actually experienced if first hand. The existence of God is
not provable and is based upon belief ('faith'). Anyone who "knows"
rather
than "believes" that God exists is probably violating the tenets of their
professed religion.
I'd wager that there are more people alive today
that have directly experienced God first hand
than have /ever/ directly experienced the Shoah.
I don't pretend to have data to back up that hunch;
however, I do know some of the former people personally,
and if you like, then I'll ask if it violates their beliefs
to claim to /know/ that God exists. I doubt it.
Not all faiths are as wishy-washy as (say) liberal Protestantism.
There is exactly 0 people who have experienced any god,
while there are still quite a few that survived Shoah, so
I don't know how you got your results.