I was writing a Wikipedia entry for Virgil Fox (the organist) and I wanted
to quote his introduction to the Bach Toccata and Fugue in Dm (BWV565) from
the album "Heavy Organ" because I thought that it nicely summed up his
approach to music (especially as constrasted with that if E. Power Biggs),
but I didn't want to run afoul of the copyright police, so I thought I'd
ask here first.
The quote is:
''There is current in our land (and several European countries) at this
moment a kind of nit-picking worship of historic im-po-tence. They say,
they say, that Bach must not be interpreted and that he must have no
emotion, his notes speak for themselves. You want know what that is? Pure
unadulterated rot! Bach has the red blood. He has the communion with the
people. He has all of this amazing spirit and imagine that you could put
all the music on one side of the agenda with his great interpretation and
great feeling and put the greatest man of all right up on top of a dusty
shelf underneath some glass case in a museum and say that he must not be
interpreted! They're full of you know what and they are so untalented that
they had to hide behind this thing 'cause they couldn't get in the House of
Music any other way!''
I would argue that it would fall under any reasonable definition of fair
use, but I'd like to get a second opinion before I cause any trouble.
Just for future reference, assuming quoting the text is permissible, where
would attaching an MP3 of that introduction fall? I don't think it is
worth it in this case, but I was just wondering where the edges are.
Is there a standard way to footnote such entries?
Mark H. Zellers
>You missed some out. (timestamps are UTC+1; and
>StaggeringFluffy is Anthere,
>in case you're confused).
Nod. I send only the beginning, but later, I copied
the whole discussion on his talk page.
no time stamp. Feature not available on chatzilla :-)
Of course, he said he would not do it again.
However, he did not unblock the guy himself (granted
he may not have had the time), he did not reverted his
reversion, and he did not apologize to the user he
And yes, there is no policy on meta about blocking
people for bad reasons. No policy against reverting
good edits and calling people vandal by mistake. And
no policy to say that in case of mistake, it is a good
idea to apology. There are only other sysops here to
take time to check each of his steps, correct his
mistakes, then explain him why he was wrong.
I do not feel well, because I feel I am doing the cop.
Which I do not feel like doing. Which I do not feel
like I should do against any other sysop.
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* Erik Moeller
> > Indeed, if you read up on AS, you find that the
disorder only goes a
> > small way towards explaining Perl's behaviour.
> Maybe so, maybe not. This is not a moral discussion
(if you want to make
> it one, I'll begin by contending the concepts of
good and evil). The
> question is whether Alex can act within our
policies. Given how many
> chances we gave Lir, I believe we should give him
another chance to do so.
>But has Perl been told his behaviour is astoundingly
>counter-politic? I cannot see anything of the sort in
>his talk page either in WP or in Meta.
Hi Pedro. Yes, he was told on irc. I hope my
explanations were clear enough. If not, I suppose my
level of conviction could not escape him :-(
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Whatever extension syntax we decide on, I hereby officially ask for the
support of SMILES. SMILES are a simple (wiki-way!) syntax for describing
molecular structures. For a tutorial and examples, see
Automatic rendering should
* ease the addition of molecular structures to articles
* make uploaded structures obsolete (save space/avoid copyright
issues/reduce cluttering of image namespace)
* unified look'n'feel
There appears to be a toolkit at
but I didn't look into it yet. There is also a Java app that can render
SMILES into PNG, somwhere...
> Voting deadline is April 12, 2004, 20:00 UTC. Please distribute this
> announcement to your local projects. This is not only relevant to
> Wikipedia but to all Wikimedia projects.
Personally, I have no opinion on what syntax is preferable. But it
annoys me that at the time I read this message (April 15) the deadline
has already passed. At Easter you do other stuff and so on. I just
think that six days are not enough to hold a fair vote. God managed to
create a world in six days, but holding an international vote that
potentially effect all wikipedians in that time? No way.
So is it to much to ask for that very important votes (read the quoted
text) is given atleast one month of time? There's no hurry.
Erik Moeller wrote:
>>So, has Perl knowingly abused any sysop user rights on the Maori Wikipedia,
>>Wikibooks, or Meta? Granted he failed to follow the largely unwritten admin
>>rules for Meta, but an apparent honest mistake is hardly grounds for
>>de-adminship (unless he does it again after being informed of those rules).
>>His actions on Meta seemed to be acts in good faith as far as I could see.
He reached his position by lying and deception.
> I agree. Meta is a bit of a craphole and Alexander did what he could to
> clean it up. I see no evidence that there was any attempt to resolve this
> matter in personal discussion - there is certainly no message on his talk
> page. Why does this need to be discussed on a public mailing list?
Like I said before, I want Perl desysopped on meta. I'm not too keen on
unilateral action, so it's not something that can be done with a private
> The policy issues on Meta should be separated in the discussion from any
> personal issues. As he notes on his user page, Alex is a kid with
> Asperger's syndrome. Don't give him too much of a hard time, please.
I used to think that way, but contact with another Asperger's sufferer
on Wikipedia changed my mind. PMelvilleAustin is a model WikiCitizen. He
has trouble understanding policy and social conventions, but instead of
acting impulsively and trying to cover up complaints, he seeks advice
and profusely apologises for any wrongdoing. When challenged over his
decision making ability, he quietly resigned sysopship, an honour which
had originally been foisted on him unexpectedly. AS is not an excuse.
Indeed, if you read up on AS, you find that the disorder only goes a
small way towards explaining Perl's behaviour.
> does something really stupid there are more than enough ways to undo it.
> Furthermore, Meta issues belong on foundation-l, not on
> wikipedia-l, as Meta is not just about Wikipedia.
I don't mind moving to foundation-l if that's what you want.
-- Tim Starling
Please create Wikipedia (Uichipedia) in aromanian (armâneashti), at http://ars.wikipedia.org . I've partially translated the language file at http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/LanguageArs.php . In the language file, all the names of the pages, the name of the days and mounths and the preferences page were translated, and the rest of the interface is in romanian, untill aromanian wikipedia will be online, so that other armâneashti speakers can work on translating it. The logo can be found here: http://meta.wikipedia.org/upload/2/28/Logo-wiki-ars.png . I stored some first articles on my computer, the Main Page (Prota padzinâ) too.
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Thanks, Brion and Magnus, for feedback on the DOI proposal. An interwiki
prefix might be sufficient when it comes to quoting DOI-enabled resources.
Who do I approach to take this matter further? I.e. who's in charge of