Walter Vermeir asked:
> A "Wikimedia" in Europa can be useful I think but is it really necessary
> to setup different organizations for all the countrys?
First answer:
Is it really necessary to setup different Wikipedias in all the languages?
Second answer:
There is a german proverb saying something like "7 Germans - one association".
Or was it about the English men forming a club? Well, it does not matter. The
fact is that people with common interests like to join.
Here in Germany there are thousands of "e.V."s - little clubs collecting stamps
or or non-profit organisations trying to improve the world. Some of the German
Wikipedians are going to found such a "e.V." targeting on making publicity and
collecting money for Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects and -
last-but-not-least - having a good time together. Having a "e.V." and drinking
beer[*] together on it's meetings is something ritual in germany we do not want
to miss.
Jimbo Wales wrote:
> What I ask you to do is to *not* go ahead, not so quickly, as there is
> no particular reason to hurry. We can spend several months exploring
> options and talking to a lawyer. Possibly my visit to Germany this
> summer would be a good target date for the launching of such a
> foundation, and I could be there to give my enthusiastic support.
As far as I can see the discussion on german wikipedia is far to long to avoid
founding *anything* in the next 2 month.
Please do not take this too serious. We have a common goal and it's all under
GNU FDL. Status of any legal associations will not make the difference.
Greetings,
Jakob
[*] We also like wine and non-alcoholic drinks
>Ec wrote:
>If you are looking for a lawyer who is "fluent in English" the notice
>could just as easily be in English. :-)
Many a false statement written in jest :)
Pete/Pcb21
As I expected, the Amazon experiment shows fairly conclusively that
the revenue to be obtained is not sufficient to justify any potential
controversy that this might cause.
>From the other day when I started this, to now, our complete earnings
are $0.34, yes, 34 cents.
These earnings are based on the sales of 5 total items, 4 paperbacks
from Amazon, and 1 hardback from their used Marketplace. (However, it
looks like the earnings may not have been credited for all the items,
so it is possible that a few more cents will trickle in.)
In any event, it is clear to me that under the most optimistic
scenario, with the links made more prominent or more often or
whatever, the Amazon program could return at most $200 per month. I
just made that number up out of thin air, and I actually have no
particular idea as to how it could be forced that high.
Therefore, I eagerly conclude that this whole issue is a dead issue,
and that we need not consider it much further, if at all.
--Jimbo
I'll be doing some work on Wikipedia's servers today. So, the site
may be unavailable from 2:00pm-5:00pm Pacific time.
The work I am performing is not a part of our ongoing growth plan. It
is more of an emergency response to the current problem. A
larger-scale upgrade will be coming in the next month or so...
Sorry for the trouble. Thank you for your patience.
--
"Jason C. Richey" <jasonr(a)bomis.com>
I would like to place a notice like this, in German, prominently on
the homepage of the German Wikipedia, and perhaps on the Recent
Changes page.
"Are you a German lawyer who is fluent in English? The Wikimedia
Foundation is exploring what will be necessary to set up a German
nonprofit organization and needs legal assistance. If you are willing
and able to give pro bono assistance, please contact jwales(a)bomis.com
in English. Thanks!"
Could someone do that for me?
I would like to discuss with someone who can explain to me some of the
possibilities and pitfalls, so that we can move forward in our
decision making with solid information rather than speculation by
those of us who are not lawyers.
--Jimbo
A "Wikimedia" in Europa can be useful I think but is it really necessary
to setup different organizations for all the countrys?
There is the European Union. What is the problem to create one Wikimedia
organization for all the members of the European Union?
[[nl:gebruiker:Walter]]
Erik wrote:
>I would like to apologize for being unnecessarily rude in
>defending my invention. I hope it's understandable that
>after spending several hours working on something, you
>become a bit defensive about it. Especially as I developed
>this not for me, but to help newbies.
Well when I've spent several hours on the mailing list over a certain issue, I
sometimes loose some objectivity and civility. So I accept your apology and
hope that you will accept mine.
It may be that I'm used to it now and know how it works, but I've just played
with your little toy again and it doesn't seem that horrible in its half
disabled state.
Saying something like "Formating example bar" above the toolbar would probably
shut me up on this issue. :)
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
Jimmy Wales wrote:
> 3. If you're a prominent Wikipedian in the San Francisco area who
> would be interested in being interviewed, please email me and let me
> know your contact info so I can pass it along.
You might want to contact some of the people at:
http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedians/California
From memory, Stevertigo, Tualha, Smack, Jiang, Khym Chanur, Dante
Alighieri, Minesweeper, CYD and Davodd are active. Of those, Stevertigo,
Dante and CYD have been with the project the longest.
-- Tim Starling