Wikipedia-l November 2003

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Esperanto Wikipedia slow too
by Chuck Smith 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

> > Broundground for my question is: at certain times > de.wikipedia is > > terribly overloaded (or unresponsive) and I'd like > to know the reason > > why. > > Today the same again. Is the the time when google > fetches the whole > thing? I cannot access the German WP for more than > 13' - accessing the > English version works, more or less instantly. I've had people reporting to me the same about the Esperanto version (Esperanto runs slow, English runs fast), but I haven't experienced it myself. Chuck ===== Learn a cool language for free! http://www.lernu.net/ __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Logos und Klingeltöne fürs Handy bei http://sms.yahoo.de

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RE: [Wikipedia-l] Re: Statistics?
by Constans, Camille (C.C.) 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

> >Karl Eichwalder <ke(a)gnu.franken.de> writes: > >> Are there any statistics publically available? Which SQL statements >> are issued when? >> >> Broundground for my question is: at certain times de.wikipedia is >> terribly overloaded (or unresponsive) and I'd like to know the reason >> why. > >Today the same again. Is the the time when google fetches the whole >thing? I cannot access the German WP for more than 13' - accessing the >English version works, more or less instantly. > You can find statistics on http://de.wikipedia.org/stats for the german wiki and http://www.wikipedia.org/stats for english wiki. Wikipedia is slow, because the two servers we're using are very overloaded. We should soon get a new dual-opteron which will become the db server.

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Wikimedia, MediaWiki logos uploaded
by Daniel Mayer 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

SV wrote: >Speaking of media -- we *need* a news wiki. No joke. Already a very active one at [[Current events]]. Which, BTW, helps keep the /encyclopedia/ up-to-date. Wikipedia would be harmed by diverting that effort into a different project - it is simply way too similar to just updating the encyclopedia to reflect current events. Besides, there is already Indymedia. Oh and I like the Wikimedia logo /exactly/ the way it is. The only thing I would change on the MediaWiki logo is to obtain a photo of a more perfect and healthy flower (unless that is supposed to be somehow symbolic ;). The PM logo was a wonderful concept but PM's specific implementation of that idea was a monster that needed refinement. The runners up did not need such refinement (as always, IMO). -- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)

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mirror sites?
by Chuck Smith 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

Hey, sorry to keep bugging you all, but I think I've missed like a few months worth of messages here and I'm trying to catch up. Anyway, is there any mirror site for Wikipedia where you can just read the Wikipedia? Basically, I want a place to go where I can read the Wikipedia when the server is sloooooooooooooooooooow. If not, it might be a good idea to set one up. Perhaps http://www.wikipedia-imitation.org/ ? ;-) Thanks, Chuck ===== Learn a cool language for free! http://www.lernu.net/ __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Logos und Klingeltöne fürs Handy bei http://sms.yahoo.de

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Re: Banned user protection on the Meta?
by Andrew Alder 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

G'day This message doesn't seem to have been saved on the archive properly, see http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2003-November/012902.html It did go out to those subscribed to the full list (at least I got my copy) but I don't know whether it was in the digest. So I'm trying again. Apologies to those who now have two copies (assuming it works this time). Andrew A >Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 05:10:42 +1100 >To: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org >From: Andrew Alder <andrewa(a)alder.ws> >Subject: Banned user protection on the Meta? > > >It appears that a hard-banned user from the English Wikipedia is now >active on the Meta, see > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump#Contributions_by_142.17… > >and > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump#Any_banned_user_protect… > >(sorry I can't make the second link work properly, Eudora doesn't want to >include the '?' in the link). > >Any advice as to how to handle the Meta contributions would be >appreciated. As I said in the Village Pump, there are some good points >being made, just in the wrong place IMO. They are provocative and >interesting, but IMO some of them don't belong in Wikipedia at all (even >the Meta), and there's considerable risk of myself and others wasting time >if we're not careful. > >This is my first post to any Wikipedia mailing list. It was suggested on >the Pump that it should be raised on the English Wikipedia list, but it >seems to me to better fit the guidelines for this one. > >Andrew Alder >Wikipedian andrewa **** andrewa @ alder . ws http://www.zeta.org.au/~andrewa Phone 9441 4476 Mobile 04 2525 4476 **** --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 27/10/03

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Banned user protection on the Meta?
by Andrew Alder 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

It appears that a hard-banned user from the English Wikipedia is now active on the Meta, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump#Contributions_by_142.17… and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump#Any_banned_user_protect… (sorry I can't make the second link work properly, Eudora doesn't want to include the '?' in the link). Any advice as to how to handle the Meta contributions would be appreciated. As I said in the Village Pump, there are some good points being made, just in the wrong place IMO. They are provocative and interesting, but IMO some of them don't belong in Wikipedia at all (even the Meta), and there's considerable risk of myself and others wasting time if we're not careful. This is my first post to any Wikipedia mailing list. It was suggested on the Pump that it should be raised on the English Wikipedia list, but it seems to me to better fit the guidelines for this one. Andrew Alder Wikipedian andrewa **** andrewa @ alder . ws http://www.zeta.org.au/~andrewa Phone 9441 4476 Mobile 04 2525 4476 **** --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 27/10/03

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Statistics?
by Karl Eichwalder 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

Are there any statistics publically available? Which SQL statements are issued when? Broundground for my question is: at certain times de.wikipedia is terribly overloaded (or unresponsive) and I'd like to know the reason why. -- | ,__o | _-\_<, http://www.gnu.franken.de/ke/ | (*)/'(*)

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Re: [WikiEN-l] NPOV disputes in Polish-German articles
by Jimmy Wales 01 Nov '03

01 Nov '03

Oh my, well, is the dispute over place names? Or more substantive issues than that? If the dispute is over place names, then subject to the advice of Germans I know, I am willing to decree what strikes me as the obviously correct solution: things are to be named in the German wikipedia what the majority of Germans call them, and things are to be named in the Polish wikipedia what the majority of Poles call them. Also, is there any suspicion that a banned user (HJ) has returned? She was always stirring that topic up. --Jimbo

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