Toby and everybody. Who cares about Lir or what he
espouses? It's pretty clear that Adam/Bridget/Lir has
burned most of his/her bridges -- let's please just
leave it at that. He isn't contributing at present
and lurks on the mailing list more to comment than to
try to learn more about the community and how to work
within it, as far as I can tell. Let's just leave off
on any speculation that would induce a response that's
other than helpful. It's just too much of a drain on
our e-mail boxes ;-)
Jules, who apologizes for the header, but thinks we
really should try to maintain some orthographical
standards.
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I unblocked Helga's IP on November 12th and reported this on the mailing list as follows:
http://www.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2002-November/007408.html
However, to my regret and consternation, I note that my e-mail was so obscure as to fail to catch anyone's attention.
Ed Poor
Plz stop harrassing Helga. It was argued that her changes were POV by changing German ultimatum to German/Lithuana treaty --- it seems to me that Helga was making the article not only NPOV but also more informative, as ultimatum is a much more weighted word than treaty.
On Boleslaus I - the changes do not make me wish to ban Helga-it makes me wonder why, if Helga is wrong and Boleslaus managed to pass the crowd to successors, then why doesn't the page link to these successors?
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Dear Wikipedians!
I just read in the Debian Weekly News that the Free Software Foundation
has published a new revision of the GNU Free Documentation License,
version 1.2:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl.html
Here's a discussion of the changes on the debian-legal mailinglist:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/debian-legal-200211/msg00285.h
tml
I have no clue about these things, but I thought it might be of interest
for our project. Do we gain anything if we change to the new version?
Kurt
Well, it looks like Wikipedia has been down for about 2 hours. Not that I want my money back or anything ;-)
But Jimbo and Brion have been trying to restore service. I myself took a look, but I'm the new guy and I couldn't do anything helpful.
For now, we are stuck in Read-Only mode until someone smarter than me decides to unlock the database. So browse, away, folks! And save all your edits off-line...
Ed Poor
Please disregard the tone of panic in my previous message--clearing my
cache and reloading worked.
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http://www.redbird.org
I tried going to the recent changes page, and got this error message:
Warning: Host 'localhost.localdomain' is blocked because of many connection
errors. Unblock with 'mysqladmin flush-hosts' in
/usr/local/apache/htdocs/w/DatabaseFunctions.php on line 19
Could not connect to DB on 127.0.0.1
Host 'localhost.localdomain' is blocked because of many connection errors.
Unblock with 'mysqladmin flush-hosts'
If this error persists after reloading and clearing your browser cache,
please notify the Wikipedia developers.
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--- athymik <athymik(a)ifrance.com> wrote:
> Des nouvelles :
>
> * Une autre vague a �t� repous�e...
> * LAG total ! On peut m�me plus voir ce qu'il fait !
>
> Une id�e ?
> Merci ;-)
>
> Tim
Je suis de retour depuis 15 mn
Aucune connection a aucun site
Good news
We are safe, horray !!!
Bad news : maybe the lag is happening because the
assault moved to another place
Do not restart the server !! When down, we are safe
!!!
Athymyk, seriously, could you tomorrow work on a
"REPAIRBOT"
I agree with it by default !!!!
below some thoughts
A vandal bot not taking all the advantages it could is
either
* a vandal managed by an idiot
* a fire drill
Typically
* running the bot under an ip rather than loggued in
user
* giving up after a couple of minutes
* only using a dozen ip at most
* running on small wikis at the very moment when it is
most likely for people to be watching rather than
off-peak hours
* same comment and same text everywhere
== How could we detect a vandal bot ? ==
* more than xxx edits per minut with a max of yy edits
per t mn
* replacement of a text of more than xxx characters
per a chain of less than yyy characters, this more
than t times (especially the same text)
* replacement of a text of more than xxx characters
per picture, this more than t times (especially the
same picture)
* replacement of a text of more than xxx characters
per blank page, this more than t times
* identical comment per same user more than t times
Pros : some perfectly acceptable actions can be
repeted many times (reversion, typos...)
:reponse : why not make a list of old-hands loggued
users who might be excluded from the watch ?
== How could detection system alert people ? ==
* automatic alert on mailing lists (main list,
wikitech list, specific language list)
* personnal mail alert for designed users, for
specific language
* general alert with visual indicator on all wikipedia
(specific to language, example : interlanguage gets
red)
* personnal alert on talk pages of designed used
== How could we stop the vandal bot ? ==
* international sysops
* in recent change, the status of the ip or of the
loggued-user must be displayed ("block this ip" or "ip
blocked")
* possibility to limit the number of edit per page of
a loggued-in user per a sysop
cons : abuse during edit war
answer : peer pressure
== How could we repair the damage ? ==
* RepairBot
Spec :
1. accessibility
:from the special pages
:directly from recent change by clicking on the "ip
blocked" link
:sysop only ?
:feature available only for blocked user or ip to
limit abuse
2. Displays a page, with the vandal ip or user name,
list of pages with "top" qualification (vandal was
last to edit)
3. the repairBot go through all those pages one after
the other; check if the last edit was the vandal one,
revert to the last before vandalism.
4. repairBot is a non-loggued ip, to be stopped by a
sysop
cons : abuse during edit war
Answer : the bot could be used only by a sysop
different from the one who did the block
>
> > Peut-�tre revenir m'aider maintenant... il est
> revenu !!!
> >
> > > holalala, mais qu est ce qu on va faire !!!!!
> > >
> > > --- athymik <athymik(a)ifrance.com> wrote:
> > > > Bonjour � tous,
> > > >
> > > > Iala'29899 est revenu nous dire bonjour alors
> :
> > > >
> > > > * diff) (hist) . . Alcalo�de; 22:16 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Albin; 22:16 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Alberta; 22:16 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Albert King; 22:16 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Albert Ducrocq; 22:15 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Albert Collins; 22:15 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Albert Camus; 22:15 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Albanie; 22:15 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Albanais; 22:15 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Alan Greenspan; 22:15 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Ai; 22:15 . . Francis
> (revert)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Alan Cox; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Alain Madelin; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Alain Jupp�; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Alain-Fournier; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Al-Bahnasah; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akseli Gallen-Kallela;
> 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akira Kurosawa; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akihito; 22:14 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akihabara; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akh�naton; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akhit; 22:13 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akhenaton; 22:13 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akh; 22:13 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Aker; 22:13 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akenaton; 22:13 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akachan; 22:13 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Aka; 22:13 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Aisne; 22:13 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Aires prot�g�es; 22:13 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Ain; 22:12 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Aiguchi; 22:12 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Aichi; 22:12 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Ai; 22:12 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > >
> > > > Voila... @+ HELP ! On est que trois...
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > >
> > >
>
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> > Why don't we give Tokerboy (aka Tucci) sysop rights? I have developer
> > rights, so if no one objects in the next few hours I'll just run the
> > script.
> >
> > We'll have a party with cake and some other more potent goodies later this
> > evening... ;-)
>
> I'd bring the sage if I had some - but all I have is basil (and the one you
> see in the picture has lost all its leaves - I brought its son inside).
>
> phma
I'm going to take your wry comment as a tacit endorsement, thus bringing the tally to 4 in favor, none opposed.
Ed Poor
-----Original Message-----
From: Poor, Edmund W.
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:37 PM
To: 'wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org'
Subject: Say 'high' to a new sysop
Why don't we give Tokerboy (aka Tucci) sysop rights? I have developer rights, so if no one objects in the next few hours I'll just run the script.
We'll have a party with cake and some other more potent goodies later this evening... ;-)
Ed Poor
-----Original Message-----
From: Tucci [mailto:tucci528@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:50 PM
To: wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org
Subject: [WikiEN-l] Re: WikiEN-l digest, Vol 1 #25 - 9 msgs
> You forgot a vital piece of information. By which
> user name do you want sysop
> user rights? Tokerboy or Tucci528 (I assume Tokerboy
> since that is the user
> name you seem to be using these days).
Tokerboy, definitely. I only used Tucci528 before I
could think of anything better (I'm indecisive).
I was out of town for a few days, and I thought for
sure I'd have about a million digests waiting for me.
Turns out there were three, so I guess I'm not the
only one who was vacationing from wikipedia during Thanksgiving.