Hi,
This week, I have been contacted by two different
languages (nl and it) to discuss creation of local
association and membership issues.
There is currently one association : the german
verein.
The French people will probably created "Wikimedia
France" in october or november of this year.
I understand Italy, the Netherlands and Belgium are
interested as well.
I will give a few initial comments to both languages.
Further discussions will occur where you think best. I
will try to write in simple english. I hope most
people will understand.
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First : Opinion on local assocations.
We understand the need of creating local associations,
and support it.
I think it is important to create local associations.
It gives a sense of belonging to a local community
(for example, it help organising local events).
It also is beneficial for legal issues (for example,
local donations or tax refunds).
Mostly, we want to do things the way the community
feels it is best.
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Second : What is required to have an association
recognised and welcome by the Foundation.
Anyone can create anytime an association of the type
"The friends of Wikipedia". However, we wish that all
local associations and the foundation be united.
Essentially, this shall be done through agreeing to a
common mission statement.
Second, as mentionned in
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Membership_fees
The foundation will consider that all participants to
any wikimedia project will be voluntary members per
default. Besides, any contributing member (this is how
we call members who pay dues to an association) giving
money to an association, will be considered a
contributing member of the foundation, provided that
there is an agreement with the foundation.
We made an agreement with the german association. It
will have to refund a minimum of 6 dollars to the
foundation, for each paying member. This amount is the
minimal amount asked for a contributor to a project to
be a member.
Now, we are aware that legislation differ depending on
countries, so the way the money is transfered has to
be studied on a case by case. For example, germans
have to give a reason for money transfert, such as the
purchase of a server. Of course, each situation will
be considered.
I'll add on top of this, that we proposed to offer to
each starting association a small amount of money to
help it get started (there are some creation fees).
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Third : association in countries with multiple
languages
The creation of an association in Belgium for example,
will be very interesting, since this country is not
monolingual, and is likely to have several members
from different languages. We will have to consider
this very carefully, so that the money collected in
one country, is managed to help all languages in the
country if possible.
Also, I hope that french speakers from Belgium are to
be involved in that creation as well ;-)
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Fourth : legal issues.
I would like to know where you stand on this since the
first thing to do is to draft bylaws. You may wish to
study the structures already set by the germans and
drafted by the french.
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I am very excited by the prospective of all those
future local chapters :-)
Anthere
anthereATwikimedia.org
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http://wiki.auf-trag.de/ch-portal/ ziet er goed uit! Oogt vriendelijker dan
de huidige welkomstpagina's van be en nl.
Groet,
Fruggo
>From: Walter Vermeir <walter(a)wikipedia.be>
>Reply-To: De discussielijst van de Nederlandstalige Wikipedia
><wikinl-l(a)wikipedia.org>
>To: wikinl-l(a)wikipedia.org
>Subject: [WikiNL-l] Re: New wikipedia.ch is about to be launched
>Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:18:29 +0200
>
>Jmfayard <jmfayard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>See the project here : Seems beautiful, and it could give a national
>>meaning to wikipedia in this country.
>> Can't the same be made for Wikipedia.be
>>
>>Some discussion about it : in french
>>http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_Bistro#Salut_les_wikipediste…
>>in german
>>http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Schweiz/Portal and
>>http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Schweiz/Portal/Pressemit…
>>They have a press release along the new site.
>
>
>Dat ziet er wel mooi uit. Misschien ook iets voor http://www.wikipedia.be
>en http://www.wikipedia.nl ?
>
>Ik ben niet zeker maar ik denk dat die pagina's dan extern gehost moeten
>worden en dus niet zomaar op de wikiwijze aangepast kunnen worden. Is ook
>niet echt nodig, maar toch.
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Hello,
At ars electronica in Linz Jimbo and I had the idea to hold a Wikipedia
meetup next summer.
Since people from as many wikimedia projects as possible should be able
to participate we decided on Europe as the best place to do this, and
we'll be trying to get funding for wikipedians from other continents to
join in the fun.
Now, the exact location is to be decided. There are several important
criterias, like number of local wikipedians, closeness to an
international airport, costs and abilities of conference facilities...
The details can be found on
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_meetup_2005
Where the conference is hosted will be a community decision along the
lines of the Olympic games selection:
I'd like to encourage everyone to place proposals on
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_meetup_2005 with detailed
information so we can choose the place which offers the most advantages.
Most important are of course conference facilities and dates where they
are still free.
Since most conference facilities have to be booked long in advance and
there will be enough organisational stuff left to do, I suggest a
deadline of one month, ending 10th of october.
Please translate this posting and make it public in your project so that
as many wikipedians as possible have a chance to participate in the
discussion and the choice.
greetings,
Elian
On nl:wikipedia a valid reason for the deletion of pictures is that they
are not used. I have asked at "the kroeg" that they should not be
deleted in anticipation of WikiCommons.
Andre Engels asked me why I thought that there will be a WikiCommons as
both he and I have so far been given the cold shoulder treatment on
WikiCommons. His question is fair. What do I base my trust on that there
will be in the near future a WikiCommons ?
Question:
*Should these pictures be deleted from nl:wikipedia ?
*When will there be a place where we can upload material that is not
used on nl:wikipedia and that will be eventually available in WikiCommons ?
Thanks,
GerardM
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_kroeg#T-shirts
Voor wie de Kroeg niet zoveel bezoekt of het gewoon gemist zou hebben;
Wie zou een exclusief Wikipedia T-shirt graag willen kopen?
Het is enkel een peiling om te zien hoeveel interesse ervoor is. Men kan
er dus nog geen kopen. Het uitkijken naar prijzen en het aanmaken gaat
pas gebreuren als er een groepje is dat heeft aangegeven een T-shirt wel
te willen kopen.
Indien u er meerdere zou kopen geef dat dan ook mee. Prijzen zijn er dus
nog niet maar het lijkt mij waarschijnlijk dat we hier spreken over
prijzen in de richting van 5 a 10 euro het stuk + verzendingskosten.
Ik maak hier reclame omdat ik graag een T-shirt zou willen maar dan moet
er wel genoeg volk zijn. Zet uw naam er niet op indien niet ernstig.
(INTERN verkeerde lijst daarjuist)
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