Le 6 avr. 05, à 09:58, Anthere a écrit :
--- "jacques.divol" <jacques.divol(a)laposte.net> wrote:
i'll try to check and untie the knots, its
....
weird the way people
had act on the matter wikipedia vs wikinews.
Many french feel very upsets of being forced to
accept wikinews from
'foreigners', with rules and ways of making the
stuff not very
familliars to them. (it's their feeling)
Sad.
but I understand very well their point of view on
the mater.
many thinks that wikinews is outside wikipedia "way
of life" so reject
the project (no editor freedom,...)
They forget that If the creator of wikinews, the
living WIKI God
himself, said something about the way people may
write articles, may
use a workflow or templates and so on, it's just
ideas, draft
framework, draft blue print, ... it's not LAW, it's
just a ... 'what do
you think of that' .
i think, am I wrong Erik ???
don't think
I think that polish, french, spanish, italian, ...
wikinews DONT HAVE
TO FOLLOW editorial way from ENGLISH or GERMAN
editions.
-They could find they own ways,
MORE I think that wikinews DONT HAVE TO FOLLOW
editorial way from
Professional NewsWriters, journalists.
-They could find they own ways.
I entirely agree with you Jacques.
However, when you claim that neutrality is not a
universal concept, is purely an american concept,
should not influence the way of writing in a french
speaking website. And that lastly, the current NPOV
might even be illegal in France... Sorry, but I find
this a bit worrying.
While there are rules which should absolutely be
local, other principles should not. I am currently a
bit perplex.
Ant
Thanks Ant,
-Yes I claim, read some Jack Vance, Ursula Le Guin (...) Sci-Fi books,
you'll understand that Universality Concept is not Universal at all,
it's a concept no more.
-yes, NPOV is not so legal in France, but don't worry.
-Each one is responsible in France (more or less ok)
For example : Nazi party is ILLEGAL in France, as well supporting this
kind of ideas, its not the case in the USA (first Amendment), and so
on...
The worst in fact in france is about copyright and the stuff author
rights... , but you already know i hope
It's a problem for all wiki sub-domain: so for wikinews:fr it is states
that all the writing is PUBLIC DOMAIN.
... other wise you need a contract, something writen that the author
leave all his (her) rights upon the 'work'.
(it's complexe when money(or possible virtual futur value) is involved
. you know what I mean, could kill friendship,familly and love...),
french government wants it's share too...(taxes,...) and when it's FREE
no taxes !
jacques
sorry for my free way of writing, I am not so easy in English ((ok best
than most french people)
and it's hell when i speak !