On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 14:43 -0600, Nathan Reed wrote: Sorry about that. [Nathan, if he didn't get that message I thiny you should send him one. Wikipedia came before the WMF. The 501(c) was set up to support the per-consensus wishes of the community at that time. I'm not privy to all the details of, nor totally happy with those I know of, around changing the composition of the board. I have a "gut feeling" that moves to professionalise may impede some community innovations. However slowing change, and making it more difficult, does have positive points. There is no need to worry one day you'll wake up and the Conservapedia Cabal™ have taken over. (Us Socialists are safe here, at least for now. ;-)] Anyway, now that the "representative sample" of people who use @AOL.COM email addresses has gone.... <mutters about September That Never Ended> If someone on sr.wikinews wanted to take all the published articles - per the license - and automatically reproduce on their own site - they could add any advertising they wanted (*ANY* Wikinews contributor or reader could). They could even charge a small fee for adverts to cover costs. What such a site *can't* do is use the logo or in any way bill themselves as Wikinews. Both the logo and name are registered marks. That doesn't rule out a licensing agreement for their use. I *think* if you wanted to take Wikinews content and have that up-front, with a craigslist-style advertising system, you might have a chance of a commercial venture. Thinking project-selfishly it'd make a great recruiting tool that could fund advertising itself. With the annual fundraiser coming up, now is not a time to bug Kul about that. Frankly, with such a small WMF staff, you may have a hard time getting to talk at all about something like that. However, if you could find someone interested in putting money into a project like that for Serbia and get them to accept a number of strict conditions - possibly even penalty clauses - would be written into such an agreement; then, as long as the language barrier isn't too big an obstacle, I can see that going through quickly. You could even get investment in tools to speed up or near-automate generation of a print edition - where an ability to distribute at an even more local level was possible (Adds 'Wikinewsies paid for producing free print-edition copies with added advertising and distributing to local businesses so they can do the original reporting they want' to the global domination plan) . If it's all being funded by advertising - and someone investing initially in tools for a commercial use that also fits Wikinews needs - you are vastly improving the dissemination of knowledge from a Wikimedia Foundation project that I think is overlooked where it has great potential. -- Brian McNeil &lt;brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org&gt; http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil Content of this message in no way represents the opinions or official position of the Wikimedia Foundation or any of its projects. _______________________________________________ Wikinews-l mailing list Wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l