On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 09:35 -0500, Alexandr Romanov wrote: I think this is a point for Bawolff to chip in... There are a few special pieces of Javascript active on enWN which try to detect incoming Wikipedians and caution them about editing on Wikinews, i.e. articles are a "snapshot", not to be encyclopedic, &c. IIRC the flow is as such: 1. User reads Wikipedia article, sees link to Wikinews article 2. User clicks link, reads Wikinews article 3. User selects to edit Wikinews article, a custom WP-specific edit intro is displayed. Any intermediate steps between 2 and 3 will see the "Referrer:" lost and the custom edit intro not displayed. Oh, and as some will recall, {{Howdy} }[1] has a "quick guide" for Wikipedians; I'd really love Jimmy and Mike Peel's input on this. [1] http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:Howdy -- Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Brian_McNeil Content of this message in no way represents the opinions or official position of the Wikimedia Foundation or any of its projects.

Yes, that is correct. {{Editintro from wikipedia}} is shown to anyone who hits edit from a page on wikinews, when there referrer starts with http://en.wikipedia.org which covers most, but not all (ex secure or mobile wikipedia) traffic from en'pedia. (unless the article is old, in which case {{editintro notcurrent}} is show). As brianmc mentions, if the user browses around, the referer header is lost. See http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Javascript#Custom_Editintros for the gory details. As for wikinews articles on portals - there is a bot run/developed by Miza13 ([[w:user:Wikinews importer bot]]) that copies various DPL's from wikinews to various portal pages & templates on wikipedia. This can be most commonly seen from [[Portal:Current events]] on wikipedia, where wikinews content is displayed quite prominantly (I think Cirt set that up, if i recall). Wikinews content is also dynamically added to several other pages. most portal pages have a small this topic in the news section, and some articles on major topics (typically major countries) have a {{Wikinews}} like template that updates dynamically by the bot. Of course there is also the manually added {{wikinews|Some article name}} template that is added by hand like the other sisterlinks templates. ---- As for this idea in general, I think this is a great idea, but we should make sure to try and get wikipedians on board in so it doesn't look like somebody from the outside is changing all these templates. -- - Bawolff Caution: The mass of this product contains the energy equivalent of 85 million tons of TNT per net ounce of weight. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org> wrote: