It has come to our attention that the access list of the #wikinews IRC channel has become outdated. Many of our active Wikinews users (both on wiki and in channel) do not have the proper access levels to respond to saturations.
But should any old Wikinews user come online, they have full ownership of the channel. The current level 30 access on #wikinews is "alexws, _sj_, CraigSpurrier, Chiacomo, Pechorin, Natterer, Dan100, Xirzon, Amgine, IlyaHaykinson, Datrio, Ross_Koepke, mrmiscellanious". How many are active in the channel on a daily basis? One (congrats Craig!). When was the last time Amgine was around on the project? MrM, didn't he retire two years ago? I've never met Ross_Koepke, and have no clue to who Pechorin is.
What I do know is BrianNewZealand, Brianmc, ZJH, FellowWikiNews, WM-Thunderhead, DragonFire1024, Pilotguy, and ironiridis. (If I missed anyone who is active, I'm sorry, just grabbing active users from the users currently signed on.)
Does Wikinews have a policy on how access rights should be granted? Shouldn't we have more than 1 level 30 user (kinda like Coca-Cola)? Should active administrator get higher ops access? Should we do community voting? (or am I just yapping about nothing?)
-- [[User:Terinjokes|Terinjokes]]
I use my ops when I need to.
On 9/17/07, Terin Stock terin.stock@wikinewsie.org wrote:
It has come to our attention that the access list of the #wikinews IRC channel has become outdated. Many of our active Wikinews users (both on wiki and in channel) do not have the proper access levels to respond to saturations.
But should any old Wikinews user come online, they have full ownership of the channel. The current level 30 access on #wikinews is "alexws, _sj_, CraigSpurrier, Chiacomo, Pechorin, Natterer, Dan100, Xirzon, Amgine, IlyaHaykinson, Datrio, Ross_Koepke, mrmiscellanious". How many are active in the channel on a daily basis? One (congrats Craig!). When was the last time Amgine was around on the project? MrM, didn't he retire two years ago? I've never met Ross_Koepke, and have no clue to who Pechorin is.
What I do know is BrianNewZealand, Brianmc, ZJH, FellowWikiNews, WM-Thunderhead, DragonFire1024, Pilotguy, and ironiridis. (If I missed anyone who is active, I'm sorry, just grabbing active users from the users currently signed on.)
Does Wikinews have a policy on how access rights should be granted? Shouldn't we have more than 1 level 30 user (kinda like Coca-Cola)? Should active administrator get higher ops access? Should we do community voting? (or am I just yapping about nothing?)
-- [[User:Terinjokes|Terinjokes]]
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I'm not saying the one's who do, don't use there powers when the problem arises, just that not everyone who should have those powers (Administrators on-wiki, for instance) do.
James Hare wrote:
I use my ops when I need to.
On 9/17/07, *Terin Stock* <terin.stock@wikinewsie.org mailto:terin.stock@wikinewsie.org> wrote:
It has come to our attention that the access list of the #wikinews IRC channel has become outdated. Many of our active Wikinews users (both on wiki and in channel) do not have the proper access levels to respond to saturations. But should any old Wikinews user come online, they have full ownership of the channel. The current level 30 access on #wikinews is "alexws, _sj_, CraigSpurrier, Chiacomo, Pechorin, Natterer, Dan100, Xirzon, Amgine, IlyaHaykinson, Datrio, Ross_Koepke, mrmiscellanious". How many are active in the channel on a daily basis? One (congrats Craig!). When was the last time Amgine was around on the project? MrM, didn't he retire two years ago? I've never met Ross_Koepke, and have no clue to who Pechorin is. What I do know is BrianNewZealand, Brianmc, ZJH, FellowWikiNews, WM-Thunderhead, DragonFire1024, Pilotguy, and ironiridis. (If I missed anyone who is active, I'm sorry, just grabbing active users from the users currently signed on.) Does Wikinews have a policy on how access rights should be granted? Shouldn't we have more than 1 level 30 user (kinda like Coca-Cola)? Should active administrator get higher ops access? Should we do community voting? (or am I just yapping about nothing?) -- [[User:Terinjokes|Terinjokes]] _______________________________________________ Wikinews-l mailing list Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l <http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l>
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Well, I'll gladly accept level 30 if you all are willing to give it to me ;-)
Seriously, though, I think that all of our administrators should have at least level 10. Active administrators on IRC should have a higher level. I think that all of our bureaucrats should have a higher level, perhaps 30.
On a side note, I am willing to give admins op status upon request on #wikinews-nonsense.
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---- Terin Stock terin.stock@wikinewsie.org wrote:
I'm not saying the one's who do, don't use there powers when the problem arises, just that not everyone who should have those powers (Administrators on-wiki, for instance) do.
James Hare wrote:
I use my ops when I need to.
On 9/17/07, *Terin Stock* <terin.stock@wikinewsie.org mailto:terin.stock@wikinewsie.org> wrote:
It has come to our attention that the access list of the #wikinews IRC channel has become outdated. Many of our active Wikinews users (both on wiki and in channel) do not have the proper access levels to respond to saturations. But should any old Wikinews user come online, they have full ownership of the channel. The current level 30 access on #wikinews is "alexws, _sj_, CraigSpurrier, Chiacomo, Pechorin, Natterer, Dan100, Xirzon, Amgine, IlyaHaykinson, Datrio, Ross_Koepke, mrmiscellanious". How many are active in the channel on a daily basis? One (congrats Craig!). When was the last time Amgine was around on the project? MrM, didn't he retire two years ago? I've never met Ross_Koepke, and have no clue to who Pechorin is. What I do know is BrianNewZealand, Brianmc, ZJH, FellowWikiNews, WM-Thunderhead, DragonFire1024, Pilotguy, and ironiridis. (If I missed anyone who is active, I'm sorry, just grabbing active users from the users currently signed on.) Does Wikinews have a policy on how access rights should be granted? Shouldn't we have more than 1 level 30 user (kinda like Coca-Cola)? Should active administrator get higher ops access? Should we do community voting? (or am I just yapping about nothing?) -- [[User:Terinjokes|Terinjokes]] _______________________________________________ Wikinews-l mailing list Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l <http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l>
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On 9/18/07, Thunderhead wm-thunderhead@charter.net wrote:
Well, I'll gladly accept level 30 if you all are willing to give it to me ;-)
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Seriously, though, I think that all of our administrators should have at least level 10.
From my experience, I have a different opinion. IRC is not an official
part of the project, but such "all admins should have op" attitude makes people easily misunderstand that. And normally IRC chanels are less vandalized, so ops doesn't need to be widely distributed.
Active administrators on IRC should have a higher level. I think that all of our bureaucrats should have a higher level, perhaps 30.
So this kind of distinction makes no sense, rather harmful. Again IRC is not an official part of the Wikimedia project. It is even not under the private policy etc.
On a side note, I am willing to give admins op status upon request on #wikinews-nonsense.
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---- Terin Stock terin.stock@wikinewsie.org wrote:
I'm not saying the one's who do, don't use there powers when the problem arises, just that not everyone who should have those powers (Administrators on-wiki, for instance) do.
James Hare wrote:
I use my ops when I need to.
On 9/17/07, *Terin Stock* <terin.stock@wikinewsie.org mailto:terin.stock@wikinewsie.org> wrote:
It has come to our attention that the access list of the #wikinews IRC channel has become outdated. Many of our active Wikinews users (both on wiki and in channel) do not have the proper access levels to respond to saturations. But should any old Wikinews user come online, they have full ownership of the channel. The current level 30 access on #wikinews is "alexws, _sj_, CraigSpurrier, Chiacomo, Pechorin, Natterer, Dan100, Xirzon, Amgine, IlyaHaykinson, Datrio, Ross_Koepke, mrmiscellanious". How many are active in the channel on a daily basis? One (congrats Craig!). When was the last time Amgine was around on the project? MrM, didn't he retire two years ago? I've never met Ross_Koepke, and have no clue to who Pechorin is. What I do know is BrianNewZealand, Brianmc, ZJH, FellowWikiNews, WM-Thunderhead, DragonFire1024, Pilotguy, and ironiridis. (If I missed anyone who is active, I'm sorry, just grabbing active users from the users currently signed on.) Does Wikinews have a policy on how access rights should be granted? Shouldn't we have more than 1 level 30 user (kinda like Coca-Cola)? Should active administrator get higher ops access? Should we do community voting? (or am I just yapping about nothing?) -- [[User:Terinjokes|Terinjokes]] _______________________________________________ Wikinews-l mailing list Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l <http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l>
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