Erik Moeller wrote:
Jimmy Wales:
- This one is perhaps the hardest to write in an NPOV manner: Erik is
not the dictator of Wikinews, and furthermore, everyone can acknowledge that he has said so himself, repeatedly. We can all further acknowledge, even Erik, that he acts boldly and with conviction at times and that this has at times irritated people who felt (fairly or unfairly) that he was trying to be a dictator.
You are speaking in the plural. I see no evidence that anyone besides Amgine has a problem with my general behavior on the site. If anyone does, please do post, publicly or privately. I have hardly edited at all in recent months. The heated conflicts of the last few days involved several people. I was *not* involved. I have never been in an edit war on Wikinews - except for one with Amgine over an NPOV tag. I am generally very careful to avoid the impression that I am somehow trying to push anything through. Please, do review my edit history: http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=El...
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The issue Erik refers to is when, without consulting the community, he decided to post unedited copy from VOA news, which in my opinion had bias. He repeatedly removed the {{NPOV}} tag without initially addressing the concerns on the talk page. He also published at least one of the articles while it was disputed.
See: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals/Archive/June_200... http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Ethiopians_vote_amid_opposition_charges_of_... http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Afghan_president_calls_protesters_enemies_o... http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Undelete/Afghan_president_calls_proteste... http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Undelete/Palestinians_mark_Israel%27s_cr...
The discussion was heated, and is mostly logged at http://pleonasm.saewyc.net/index.php/IRC_log_-_Xirzon
With the more-recent dispute, Erik is correct that he was not involved in the discussion regarding the implementation of the DynamicPageList in the Developing stories template on the main page. However, after a compromise was reached until the DPL could be updated, he chose break the compromise by reverting it.
Had he spoken on the Water Cooler he would have created a greater than 60% consensus to implement the proposal, but he did not do so.
He then created a technical tool to require the use of templates in new articles and implemented it on the main page - again without consulting the community. It is likely that this tool would have been embraced by the community, just as NGerda's upgrades to the article tags were, but he did not bring it to the community for their input.
Erik and I have had these two conflicts, both fundamentally over consulting the community, and I do not feel I can work in a circumstance where a person who is rarely directly involved in the site feels they can repeatedly act outside the standards of that community.
Amgine