Hi,
Why would we need that, Wikinews is our wiki, plus we already have Craig's script
which allows you to easily compare changes and update articles.
Steven F> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:49:09 -0700> From:
wm-thunderhead(a)charter.net> To: wikinews-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re:
[Wikinews-l] My plan for the big push> CC: steven_fruitsmaak(a)hotmail.com> > I
don't suppose that we could set up a wiki on>
Wikinewsie.org that is set up with
the experimental> "FlaggedRevs" extension which would allow us to review>
articles before final publication.> > --> Thunderhead>
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Thunderhead>
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thunderhead> >
_______________________________________________ > DISCLAIMER: I hold no official
position in the Wikimedia> Foundation. This message expresses the views of a single>
Wikimedia user and not necessarily the community at large.> > ---- Steven Fruitsmaak
<steven_fruitsmaak(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Dear all,> > >
> I've had this idea that I would like to share. Do you know how people can say
that Wikipedia is a very popular site because every time they look something up on Google,
they see the Wikipedia article among the first links provided? I think that is one of the
best proofs of Wikipedia's success, and so I also think we should urgently make it one
of our priorities to get Wikinews' stories onto Google News.> > > > Some
of them actually get on there already, thanks to 1) other news sites reusing our content
and 2) Wikinews Reports, our blog which Jason Safoutin (User:DragonFire1024) got onto
Google News. Getting our content stories on popular sites has been tried before, but some
attempts failed because the stories needed to get copied manually, which can be time
consuming. That when Craig Spurrier (User:Cspurrier) set up this great script at
http://thenewswiki.com/, a url he happened to own (apparently that hasn't been updated
recently). Another recent improvement has been the site
http://www.wikinewsie.org set up
by Brian McNeil (User:brianmc).> > > > So you see, we've ended up with 3
different external sites which were set up for 3 different reasons. My idea is to merge
these 3 together, as I think this would get all of our news stories on Google News. I
think the best way to do it is to set up Craig's script on
wikinewsie.org, and move
the blog over there too. That way
wikinewsie.org would provide not only email addresses
for reporters, but also a blog similar to what we have now, and it would get all our
stories on Google News.> > > > So, what do we need to get on Google News?
I'll tell you:> > - Reliable information without vandalism. They don't want
stuff anyone can edit. However, we can have an approved-versions format, like the German
Wikipedia has. This would involve trusted users who could approve of story updates.>
> - The outward appearance of a typical newspaper setup. We need some evidence of a
community behind the stories.> > - original reporting. Google News is a news
aggregator itself, so it won't list other aggregators.> > - Articles in a format
google news can aggregate.> > > > Google News refused to list
http://thenewswiki.com/ because 1) the site didn't show evidence of a community of
journalists and editors, and 2) was in fact an aggregator of stories from Wikinews. We can
change that by merging all 3 sites together. That way, we can have a review process for
Wikinews articles to ensure quality content, on a site with a community behind it, and in
a format that Google can handle. If we want to do this, we need original reporting on
wikinewsie.org . This can be achieved if all OR is originally published on that site, and
then gets copied onto Wikinews.> > > > I've been told that
wikinewsie.org
is still being set up, that we shouldn't do this because we wouldn't want to risk
what we have now, ... but I think we should, because things would be less scattered, all
goals would still be achieved and it would get all of our stories on Google News.> >
> > Sorry that this turned out to become such a lengthy post, let me know what you
think of my idea! I'll quickly summarise:> > > > 1. I think getting all of
Wikinews' stories on Google News is a top priority> > 2. I think we can achieve
this goal by merging our Wikinews Reports blog and
TheNewsWiki.com into our current
reporter site wikinewsie.org.> > > > cheers, User:Stevenfruitsmaak> >
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