[Refactored because top-posting is evil.]
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Brian McNeil wrote:
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 18:27 -0700, bawolff wrote:
>> It'd go like this: Client loads page,
page asks toolserver what
>> of source is, toolserver asks newstrust (possibly caching results).
Reminder: I'm wanting the url parameter and publisher name sent to
NewsTrust. Ideally Wikinews is displaying the sourced-from article's
rating. If they don't have one, or a very small number of reviews, it
falls back to the publisher's more general rating. We do want to pick
out where a normally good publisher spits out a dud.
>> I assume that'd take care of privacy
> I do worry how much work that would impose on NewsTrust. There would
> need to be some sort of API on their end to serve requests up with
> needed data.
> It would also make having a "mission critical" Toolserver box essential.
> I know how flaky the toolserve has historically been. We can't rely on
> what's there for stuff appearing in published main namespace content.
> In any case, we'd need to be sending the following information to
> NewsTrust from the Toolserver:
> article URL
> source name
> if an initial request, or periodic polling
> It'd need to return
> any rating they have for the article
> an indicator there rating is for the article
> the number of reviews for the article
> any rating they have for the source
> the number of reviews for the source
> If a periodic polling, NewsTrust could return some sort of "no change"
> This would be flexible enough that Wikinews could collect the
> the WMF techies paranoia about cross-site scripting attacks.
Ideally if we did use the toolserver as an
intermediary, it'd cache
responses, so not to overload newstrust (and script on wikinews end
would fail gracefully if toolserver has downtime).
I'm factoring in an "unchanged" response instead of a large blob of XML.
This way we can minimise the load put on NewsTrust and keep the data
current. I don't want too long a delay between someone reviewing an
article on NewsTrust and that being reflected anywhere the data is
displayed on Wikinews. It encourages readers both to look at these
things on NewsTrust *and* to check Wikinews articles more than once.
A last point I'd be really keen to go over with Kul in the office is how
the Foundation itself, as opposed to a semi-independent project effort,
could partner with NewsTrust. Few points on that:
The Wikinews logo is a registered mark. NewsTrust could use it under
fair-use provisions but an actual in-writing agreement would be far, far
better - and more *transparent*.
The Foundation has, as far as I know, done a few select deals with the
Wikipedia logo. If I recall correctly, one of the Spanish ISPs has a
deal to do a portal into Wikipedia content. I think that would involve
private data sharing. Can a similar deal be drawn up with NewsWire? Is
it, perhaps, just as simple as specific clauses in NewsTrust's privacy
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