They are the same and that is why I strongly opposed that wiki.&nbsp;<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>My comment four months ago:</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>&quot;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; line-height: 19px; ">I am against a private OR Wiki for the following reasons<ol style="line-height: 1.5em; margin-top: 0.3em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 3.2em; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; list-style-image: none; ">
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">.Wikinews should be open to the public not closed to the public.</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">.Collaboration should be encouraged</li><li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">. We are a news source, we should want other news sites to copy news, even pre-publication.</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em; ">. We want the news to be easily copied by others. --<a href="http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Anonymous101" title="User:Anonymous101" style="background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background-position: initial initial; ">User:Anonymous101</a>&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Anonymous101" title="User talk:Anonymous101" style="background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background-position: initial initial; ">Talk</a>&nbsp;12:05, 27 January 2008 (UTC)&quot;</li>
</ol><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Anon101</div></span><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:50 PM, bawolff &lt;<a href="mailto:bawolff%2Bwn@gmail.com">bawolff+wn@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">To me &quot;...the need for a&nbsp;non-public space for Wikinews to develop stories...&quot; == embargo wiki, which was proposed and voted on etc (with concencuss to create), and than not created. (see wc)<br>
-bawolff<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Wikinewsie: Anonymous101 &lt;<a href="mailto:wikinewsie.anonymous101@googlemail.com" target="_blank">wikinewsie.anonymous101@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
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Quote from previous email on mailing list: &quot;...the need for a&nbsp;non-public space for Wikinews to develop stories...&quot;<br><br><br>Isn&#39;t this going completely against the idea of a wiki? Should we really stop people from seeing the development process for the majority of our users. To me this just seems like a way to allow us to censor articles without anyone noticing.<div>


<br>I am concerned that Wikimedia is going to start censoring all our articles. This sort of thing, along with&nbsp;Wikinews:WMF Reports is what is going to stop us being unbiased.<br><div><br>
</div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Anon101</div></div>
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