Re: [Wikinews-l] Info about revision review (UN to protect free speech on internet)

Hello Brian, and others, Public email lists - no problem! It is just that I am old-fashioned... I barely know how to email, so these discussion pages confuse me :-) Email is easier to handle for me. However, I know that does not interface well to the Wiki idea of discussion pages, and that anyone can discuss. This email address was created specifically for Wiki use, and can probably be seen in my profile. SO it can also be used publicly for discussion about audio/video. I think it is a good idea generally to save un-published stories, they can become useful in the future. Another question is how to index and search them, but that is another technical question. However, I feel the writer/user should be free to delete the story from their user page. Maybe they don't feel like being reminded forever about it :-) Why? You seem to be the one who is actually doing something, as far as I see! It seems to me more like most others involved in eng Wikinews are more used to re-writes of what is already written in other internet press, and that then of course comes with linkable handy sources. "Source: News-of-the World" :-) (I just found that according to Wikipedia it is 'the second-largest selling English-language newspaper in the world', so I do have to use News-of-the-World more frequently as a source!) Cool idea! Then the beatings (for any reason, good or not) would never stop :-) Actually, I think it will not happen. Nobody expects anything to come from swedish wikinews, no reviewer are expecting material. So it is not clear how that would work, or what to do to make it work. However, I did take a quick look at the finnish Wikinews, and material seems to be published fairly regularly there. I already know that Wiki-any is the feeding grounds for the people who enjoy spending time bickering and flame-warring :-) I will write later when I have time a question about what material is 'acceptable' on Wikinews, about policy. It would have been very useful to be in contact a few weeks ago, as we could then have done a story about the Crown Princess wedding in Stockholm, we where there and could have done on-line immediate updates, and photo uploads, just to show that Wikinews was as on-line and there, albeit with much more limited resources, than the big news organiations. Now it is not going to happen anytime soon again. No, I did not think 'freetard' or say so. What I mean is that if 'the work of me' is put up on WMF freely downloadable servers, then eventually I will have done the work of somebody else, who writes a story using the background work I have done. And it will be somebody I do not even know, who is not even offering me a beer after the story gets published. It is already bad enough to send a detailed synopsis to magazines in order to sell a story, too many will say 'no thanks', and then do the same story with their own staff. While I personally support the idea of free information and software, I do not have the resources to work totaly for free. If I have written some software, I might release it for free, to help the world. Now I have found that I can send in a few of my pictures (note: pictures I do not think it i likely that I will ever sell and get paid for) to Wikipedia, an contribute in that way. Do also note that I _will_ keep any pictures and material that I think I can sell at a high price (just for your information, I have never had any celebrities or the like kissing an unknown date in front of my camera, so I have never had any truly sellable pictures or stories). I also do not have another work or income that is so big and easy, that it makes it possible for me to spend a lot of time for free for Wikipedia/Wikimedia. Best Regards from Jan - in Sweden