Broadcast news does certainly have advertisements.  What do you mean?
Cable news is paid for by subscription, which is merely another form of payment.
Neither are "free" of monetary considerations.


-----Original Message-----
From: Tristan Thomas <tris@waterhay.co.uk>
To: Wikinews mailing list <wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Tue, Nov 3, 2009 7:29 pm
Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] RfC: Free advertisements on Wikinews

I'm also with brian and Terin.  I just can't see how it fits in with
either the wmfs aims or wikinews. Think of news Sources like the BBC,
they have nothing like this. even sky and CNN don't, although they
display ads alongside for money, that is something we are definitely
not going to be doing.

Regards

On Wednesday, November 4, 2009, Terin Stock <terin.stock@wikinewsie.org> wrote:
> I'm going to have to agree with Brian on this one. It just steps over too many
lines for me.#Terin
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org <javascript:_e({},
'cvml', 'brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org');>> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 00:07 +0100, Milos Rancic wrote:
>> Today I've noticed creation of the account on sr.wn which means "Jobs
>> Serbia". It is obviously that it is an account from some portal which
>> is used for job advertisement. Instantly I've got an idea: to offer to
>> that portal to make one page per day for linking the job offerings. It
>> is useful and it is relevant to many Wikinews readers, as well as it
>> may make Wikinews more relevant to its readers.
>>
>> But, I've started to think further... To allow original advertisements
>> or to require linking to a relevant site? For some time I was thinking
>> that it is better not to allow original content related to
>> advertisement, but, after all, I think that it is about wiki and wiki
>> should allow that. At last, advertisement is the part of almost all
>> daily newspapers and why not to put it on Wikinews, too?
>>
>> Further, advertisement may be about a lot of fields, not just about
>> jobs. It may be about housing, cars, whatever...
>>
>> So, the question is where to stop? At the beginning and not do that at
>> all or to allow every [legal] advertisement? Or something between?
>>
>> At one side, it is not so relevant at the English language area: there
>> is Craigslist for that. In many other language areas such portals
>> don't exist and they don't have a lot of chances for success because
>> there are not enough of users who would be willing to use one
>> specialized site for that kind of advertisement.
>>
>> At the other side, it is relevant as a concept for en.wn and other
>> Wikinews editions. If it becomes successful as a model, it may bring
>> new quality and many more users.
>>
>> You may guess that I am very interested for that idea :) However, I
>> think that it is very possible that I am inside of a small minority.
>> Tell me what do you think about that and, more important, which
>> problems may we have? (BTW, yes, it is about spreading free
>> information and I don't think that it is against WMF's goals.)
>
> It is an interesting idea, but would be pretty much against policy in
> terms of putting it in the main namespace. Really, I don't think any of
> the WN projects have the resources or knowledge to manage advertising
> job vacancies. You could end up directing people to fishing expeditions
> where their personal data is harvested for identity fraud.
>
> So, I'd say, not in line with project or WMF principles. Cannot be
> effectively policed. Should not be done.
>
>
>
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