Hi all, Please don't differentiate and undermine any Wikimedia event as hosted by chapter or community.We ( as I speak for the chapter in this mail) is committed to encourage and help any Wikimedia event in the country, in the best of the efforts. As chapter, we agree to use even use the term co-host , only if the local organizers ask themselves. Since some time, we have consciously decided not to brand any Wikimedia event in the country as a chapter hosted one , except the Wiki-conference, Mumbai. We had do that for Mumbai conference, for the purposes of getting sponsors, opening bank accounts etc.
The chapter get frequent requests from various corners, from conducting Wiki-academies. The first thing we do is to put them in touch with local Wikipedians if there are any. We are making the events as much as inclusive as possible. The recent Wikiacademy @ Jaya Engineering College, Chennai , though the request came to the chapter, we heartily welcomed the participation of the Wikimedia Foundation India Programs officials. Another recent event "Wikimedia Takes Ahmedabad" , primarly done by chapter members ( they are also community members), we never publicized it as organised by the chapter. Even though many newspapers wrote that the event is organised by the Foundation, we didn't mind, as the goal and cause is more important for us. An earlier event at NIT, Calicut [1] was driven by Malayalam Community members like Vishwaprabha, Netha, Manjok & Abhishek. Still some of the Malayalam community members blamed and questioned us for doing "chapter events in Kerala" ! When somebody requests for a Wikiacademy, should we tell them to "get lost" if it is in Kerala ? Another request is received here at Adoor [2] , please tell us what to do ? We would be more than happy if this also is driven by the community in Kerala!
AFAIK, the event at CUSAT ( jan 5, 2012 ) was more finalized a few days before the event on 26 Dec [3] , The chapter secretary Naveen sent the mail to ML mailing list on 29 Dec. I agree that the local organizers & community members (like Ditty and Anil) should have informed the community much earlier, if that was possible.
The chapter itself is driven by veteran community members. It is true that the chapter is now just a smaller subset of the community...The chapter will serve its purpose and becomes more meaningful only if the whole community becomes part of it and takes its reins to drive forward. Like any other community member, we are also unpaid volunteers who sacrifice our precious time for the passion and love of the movement. It is an open membership and non profit society and we strongly encourage and humbly request every active member to join the chapter.
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Join_us
Regards
Tinu Cherian
Notes
2012/1/7 Naveen Francis
<naveenpf@gmail.com>
Hi Jythois,
Thanks a lot for the positive feedback.
Along with Malayalam SIG members and myself personally will take care to inform the mailing list at the time of request itself.
Thanks,
naveenpf
2012/1/7 Jyothis Edathoot
<jyothis.e@gmail.com>
Mail below only tells the after-story. All it tells me that you and Anil volunteered to do this. Mail also tells me that this was sent to the project mailing list after things were arranged and students signed up.
We are not here to pick a fight, but This probably is not the most ideal way of doing it when you have a reasonably active community (including yourself) around. Our success factor and strength is our community and if you just ask, community will be able to help in many ways. Please dont feel that I am against running it under chapter's banner, as chapter is free to cover the whole country. I am just worried that chapter still feels no need to involve/ inform the local community in an event that was conducted with chapter's title in Kerala, which probably clocks high in the activity chart among Indic wikipedias.
On the same note, since you and Anil volunteered for this, It also become your responsibility to at least inform the community in advance that such an event is being planned. I would have happily wished luck and some others may have asked if you need a hand with it. I guess that is what we call a community effort.
All I wish is luck and peace. "A football team is not 11 players after a big white ball. It is one team with a goal in mind" -- Me. :)
Thanks,
Jyothis
Sent from my iPad
അനൂപ് മാഷിന്റെയും, ജ്യോതിസ് മാഷിന്റെയും ശ്രദ്ധയ്ക്ക്, താഴെ കാണിച്ചിരിക്കുന്ന നവീന് മാഷിന്റെ സന്ദേശം ശ്രദ്ധിച്ചിരുന്നില്ലേ?
--ശിവഹരി
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From:
Naveen Francis <naveenpf@gmail.com>
Date: 2011/12/29
Subject: [Wikiml-l] [WMIN-Members] Wiki Academy @ Cochin University of Science and Technology
To: wikiml-l <
wikiml-l@lists.wikimedia.org>, Wikimedia India list <
wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Cc: Tinu Cherian <
tinucherian@wikimedia.in>, Ashwin Baindur <
ashlin@wikimedia.in>
Hi all,
Anilkumar KV and
Sivahari has volunteered to facilitate the WikiAcademy in Cochin University of Science and Technology.
Students has registered their names in the
page.
And please help mentoring new wikimedian's registering in the website .
Thanks,
naveenpf
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