Hi Douglas,
From the PMG Newsletter:
PMG Monitoring Group Report on Copyright Amendment Bill Trade and Industry 22 November 2017 - Chairperson :Ms J Fubbs Meeting Summary:
The Parliamentary Legal Adviser provided a status report on the Copyright Amendment Bill. The Committee was advised to group policy issues together for consideration. Submissions received had to be looked at and some people might have to be called back again. The most contentious matter, which was bound to be time consuming, was that of fair use versus fair dealing. It had to be ensured that there was no conflict with the intellectual property laws and the Indigenous Knowledge Bill that was being developed. There had to be agreement about terms of reference and a panel of experts who would assist with finalising the Bill. The number of members on the Copyright Amendment Bill Panel of Experts provisionally agreed on was five. The terms of reference were adopted with amendments.
Status report on Copyright Amendment Bill Adv Charmaine van der Merwe, Parliamentary Legal Adviser, commented that the policy issues in the |Bill had to be considered. It was a big Bill that dealt with a lot. She advised that the Committee group policy issues together. Exceptions could be looked at, including fair use versus fair dealing; general and specific exceptions; the private copying levy and freedom of panorama, which could be looked at together. Some were not contentious such as freedom of panorama, whereas others could take longer.
The Chairperson interrupted to say that she was reminded by guests that one had to be seen to be applying one’s mind. She was hearing what was being said.
Adv van der Merwe continued that fair use and fair dealing could take longer. Quite a lot of people proposed for one or for the other. Orphan works could be dealt with separately or as part of a cluster. The Committee could look at submissions and call people back again where necessary. There were groups of items that could be lumped together, such as collecting society regulation and commissioned work; and royalties assignment and the functions of the Tribunal. The latter might have to be gone through clause by clause. Another grouping could consist of technology, the Copyright Act and the circumvention device. It could be done quickly, and the same applied to moral rights. Translation and reproduction licences would have to be gone through clause by clause, as it was quite new, to see that there was no conflict with IP laws. Some progress had been made with the Indigenous Knowledge Bill so at the end of the Bill process it had to be looked at to see that there was no conflict of laws.
Discussion Ms C Theko (ANC) remarked that the process was on track. The advice was taken about what was needed to finalise the Bill. For the process to unfold, there had to be agreement on the terms of reference and the panel of experts.
The Chairperson was of the opinion that it was not desirable for the panel to be huge. Three to five members would be sufficient. If a glitch was hit, the subcommittee could request someone to be brought on board. It might be necessary in the case of braille, for instance. Ms Theko had referred to terms of reference. It was not new, and had been adopted, but there were amendments here and there. She asked if all were agreement in principle.
Ms Theko proposed that the terms of reference be adopted with amendments. Mr DA Macpherson (DA) seconded that.
The Chairperson asked that names of proposed experts be put forward.
Ms Theko mentioned Prof Sadulla Karjiker, Adv Andre Myburgh, Adv Natasha Pather and Adv Zodwa Gumede.
The Chairperson noted that the Professor held the Anton Mostert Chair of Intellectual Property law at the Stellenbosch law faculty. There was no profile on Adv Natasha Pather and asked staff to obtain a written profile. Adv Myburgh was recommended by the Motion Pictures and Music Copyright Alliance. A profile was needed on Adv Zodwe Gumede. Adv Janice Nicholson represented libraries and education, which were important. She asked for written profiles by the following Monday.
Mr Williams advised that the Committee move forward to get proposals of names.
The Chairperson noted that it looked like there would be four or five experts. It was not to exceed five in principle. The principle of application of mind had to be respected. She agreed that the Committee
See note about freedom of panorama.
Also see case in Italy - Statue of David is in the public domain yet they have legislated on copyright infringements!!! Quite ridiculous! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/24/florence-court-puts-foot-down-...
Regards Denise
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