On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Kerryn McKay <kerryn(a)africancommons.org>wrote;wrote:
Coming into the thread slightly later as I've been offline most of the
weekend. This sounds interesting. Jessie, can you give us an indication of
why Sangari SA contacted you in particular? Did they have a particular
request or proposal that they were putting to you in this regard?
Sure: In short, the contact was initiated by me to get as an attempt to
understand the breadth of our distribution of offline Wikipedia thus
I had reached out to a contact at the Shuttleworth Foundation to learn (a)
where they had distributed Wikipedia for Schools and (b) how many people
have access to the offline resources. Two goals for finding these things
- *Reach/impact estimate: *We are trying to add some sort of estimate
onto the monthly report card regarding the estimated offline viewership and
in order to do this, we need to understand where these offline versions are
being accessed. This would be helpful in forming a more robust and accurate
picture of the Wikipedia project's reach.
- *Distribution network*: An updated version of Wikipedia for Schools is
being developed to come out in about one month, in addition to an updated
version of Kiwix (the offline reader). We currently have no "update"
network, and it would be great tor revive these ties so that the updated
information can be dispersed.
Communication has been quite minimal thus far: Shuttleworth put me in
contact with Hilton who now works for Sangari SA. Hilton gave me a brief
update on the state of the WPFS distributions as well as receptivity in the
education realm. He asked if we had ideas for effective distributions of
newer copies, and before I volunteered our network of WIkimedians, I emailed
this list serve to make sure it was a potential goal worth pursuing!
I hadn't contacted him with the express intent of expanding the places of
distribution, but his response indicating the recent receptivity of the
Ministry of Education made me think this is a unique opportunity worth
digging into further in South Africa.
I agree with David that even if it's a for-profit
this shouldn't make too
much of a difference if we find that their mandate and objectives for this
particular project are aligned with the Wikimedia ZA chapter's objectives.
Although I don't know much about Sangari SA,
Hilton Theunissen is actually
on the board of our organisation, The African Commons Project and he has
always been a staunch open source guy. But again, it might help to
understand what Sangari's proposed involvement would be so that we can see
where, how and if the Chapter could fit in with the initiative.
From what I can tell, this project is less associated
with Sangari, and much
more associated with Hilton individually. We of course should
make sure all
this is very clear, though, while moving forward.
Also, the Chapter's involvement need not necessarily be on a volunteer
basis should we wish to help with training and outreach, as I know that WMF
have funds available and we could always put a small proposal together to
help with this, should this be our focus.
Yes: if there are costs associated, this is definitely the type of project
could help cover.
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On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:35 PM, David Richfield <
Thanks Kieran: this is a very interesting
perspective on the situation,
and one that I wasn't aware of.
I would be perfectly happy to work with a profit-making organisation to
help them provide Wikipedia for Schools to a wider audience, as long as
their aims are compatible with ours, but I would never knowingly support an
organisation that is inimical towards software freedom, so I'll wait to hear
a bit more before committing my time to this.
On 13 May 2011 9:44 PM, "Jessie Wild" <jwild(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
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