Hi South Africa Chapter!
By means of and introduction, my name is Jessie Wild, and I am a Special Projects manager for the Global Development department at WMF. I work on a variety of projects for the WMF dealing most specifically with Wikimedia & Education and increasing the opportunities for access to Wikipedia.
One such initiative, which I hope you are mostly all aware of, is the Offline Wikipedia projects[1]. This is basically about penetration of the encyclopedic materials into areas – particularly secondary schools – without consistent access to the Internet. Content subsets of Wikipedia which are small enough to fit onto a standard USB stick have been created and uploaded onto computers in schools around the world as essentially a piece of software. “Wikipedia for Schools” is the most commonly distributed content package[2]. The distribution of this material has been mostly done thus far throughout Africa by organizations with broad reach. Wikimedian volunteers, though, have done a tremendous amount of work to push this effort, and you may have heard specifically of the work done by the Wikimedians in Kenya on this front earlier this year.
I am writing to let you know about a recent email I got from Sangari SA, who has helped contribute since 2004 Wikipedia for Schools in over 1000 schools in South Africa. Amazing! He said the Minister of Basic Education is asking for more information about the materials, given the great expense of the alternatives (Microsoft Encartha and Brittanica).
I bring this up for two reasons:
1.
Pending endorsement from the Minister, the demand for this project could be really great across the ~26000 schools in SA. 2.
There is an updated version of Wikipedia for Schools to be released in about a months time
So I am thinking and wanted to know what YOU all thought: would your chapter be interested in getting involved with the potential distribution and corresponding training associated with these distributions? That is, showing teachers what the materials are like, teaching about the importance of open education resources, giving sample classroom usages.
If this is not something anyone is interested in, that is definitely ok, though I of course think it is a great opportunity let alone a great cause :) If there are some individuals who would like to join the discussion please email me and we could organize a plan for execution!
Jessie
[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Offline_Projects
[2] http://schools-wikipedia.org/
[3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Kenya/Project_for_Kenyan_Schools
This is exactly the kind of thing that our chapter should be working on! A relevant, exciting, useful project that can seriously raise the profile of Wikipedia in South Africa.
I'm speaking for myself, but I'm sure all of our members would love to get involved.
Kind regards,
David Richfield
I think we should be a little careful about how we go about this. While Sangari appear to have taken over Inkululeko Technologies (who inherited the TuxLab project), they appear to be strictly a commercial entity, with a focus on proprietary software and teaching materials.
http://www.shuttleworthfoundation.org/projects/the-tuxlab-project/
http://www.shuttleworthfoundation.org/projects/the-tuxlab-project/ http://techrights.org/2010/12/29/antagonism-to-freedom-in-sa-edu/ (take this link with a pinch of salt)
If Sangari's record on the TuxLab project is anything to go by (the website is now defunct, with just an Apache server error showing), I'm not sure that they carried much on from Inkululeko.
Probably it would be best to contact Hilton Theunissen (who ran Inkululeko) and ask him what's up -- he seems to still own the .
http://co.za/cgi-bin/whois.sh?Domain=inkululeko&Enter=Enter
My main concern is that there is a fine line between engaging with a corporation to help a community, and doing free labour for said corporation to directly enhance its profits. I would feel much better working with a non-profit, rather than a company trying to sell a product to the SA government.
On 13 May 2011 10:47, David Richfield davidrichfield@gmail.com wrote:
This is exactly the kind of thing that our chapter should be working on! A relevant, exciting, useful project that can seriously raise the profile of Wikipedia in South Africa.
I'm speaking for myself, but I'm sure all of our members would love to get involved.
Kind regards,
David Richfield
WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza
Of course, this is just some quick web sleuthing -- I may just be a little paranoid. But the kind of training you're talking about seems to be a commercial product offered by Sangari, so I would want to know a little more about the whole situation before leaping in.
On 13 May 2011 12:27, Kieran O'Neill oneillkza@gmail.com wrote:
I think we should be a little careful about how we go about this. While Sangari appear to have taken over Inkululeko Technologies (who inherited the TuxLab project), they appear to be strictly a commercial entity, with a focus on proprietary software and teaching materials.
http://www.shuttleworthfoundation.org/projects/the-tuxlab-project/
http://www.shuttleworthfoundation.org/projects/the-tuxlab-project/ http://techrights.org/2010/12/29/antagonism-to-freedom-in-sa-edu/ (take this link with a pinch of salt)
If Sangari's record on the TuxLab project is anything to go by (the website is now defunct, with just an Apache server error showing), I'm not sure that they carried much on from Inkululeko.
Probably it would be best to contact Hilton Theunissen (who ran Inkululeko) and ask him what's up -- he seems to still own the .
http://co.za/cgi-bin/whois.sh?Domain=inkululeko&Enter=Enter
My main concern is that there is a fine line between engaging with a corporation to help a community, and doing free labour for said corporation to directly enhance its profits. I would feel much better working with a non-profit, rather than a company trying to sell a product to the SA government.
On 13 May 2011 10:47, David Richfield davidrichfield@gmail.com wrote:
This is exactly the kind of thing that our chapter should be working on! A relevant, exciting, useful project that can seriously raise the profile of Wikipedia in South Africa.
I'm speaking for myself, but I'm sure all of our members would love to get involved.
Kind regards,
David Richfield
WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza
Yes, definitely. Thanks for bringing up these important points. I'll let the discussion continue and weigh in more later, but just so you know Hilton Theunissen is indeed the person I have been in contact with.
Excited to hear there is interest in general, though!
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Kieran O'Neill oneillkza@gmail.comwrote:
Of course, this is just some quick web sleuthing -- I may just be a little paranoid. But the kind of training you're talking about seems to be a commercial product offered by Sangari, so I would want to know a little more about the whole situation before leaping in.
On 13 May 2011 12:27, Kieran O'Neill oneillkza@gmail.com wrote:
I think we should be a little careful about how we go about this. While Sangari appear to have taken over Inkululeko Technologies (who inherited the TuxLab project), they appear to be strictly a commercial entity, with a focus on proprietary software and teaching materials.
http://www.shuttleworthfoundation.org/projects/the-tuxlab-project/
http://www.shuttleworthfoundation.org/projects/the-tuxlab-project/ http://techrights.org/2010/12/29/antagonism-to-freedom-in-sa-edu/ (take this link with a pinch of salt)
If Sangari's record on the TuxLab project is anything to go by (the website is now defunct, with just an Apache server error showing), I'm not sure that they carried much on from Inkululeko.
Probably it would be best to contact Hilton Theunissen (who ran Inkululeko) and ask him what's up -- he seems to still own the .
http://co.za/cgi-bin/whois.sh?Domain=inkululeko&Enter=Enter
My main concern is that there is a fine line between engaging with a corporation to help a community, and doing free labour for said corporation to directly enhance its profits. I would feel much better working with a non-profit, rather than a company trying to sell a product to the SA government.
On 13 May 2011 10:47, David Richfield davidrichfield@gmail.com wrote:
This is exactly the kind of thing that our chapter should be working on! A relevant, exciting, useful project that can seriously raise the profile of Wikipedia in South Africa.
I'm speaking for myself, but I'm sure all of our members would love to get involved.
Kind regards,
David Richfield
WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza
wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org