Hello everyone,
Here are some of the previously promised pictures from Saturday's Wikipedia workshop that I promised to send out. I think the event went well and I am looking forward to doing a follow up workshop in about two weeks time. Many thanks to Ian and Ana for helping out and to Prof Nyamende from UCT's African languages department for organising the computer labs and inviting everyone.
Cheers,
Congrats to you, Ian and everyone! Looks like great work is going on!
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Here are some of the previously promised pictures from Saturday's Wikipedia workshop that I promised to send out. I think the event went well and I am looking forward to doing a follow up workshop in about two weeks time. Many thanks to Ian and Ana for helping out and to Prof Nyamende from UCT's African languages department for organising the computer labs and inviting everyone.
Cheers,
-- Douglas Ian Scott 司道格 Skype: douglas0scott UK mobile number: +44 (0)755 452 5277 Chinese mobile number: +86 1 364 330 7351 South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727
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On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:10 AM, David Richfield wrote:
Congrats to you, Ian and everyone! Looks like great work is going on!
+1 Looking forward to hearing about their progress! Will editing be part of a class?
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Here are some of the previously promised pictures from Saturday's Wikipedia workshop that I promised to send out. I think the event went well and I am looking forward to doing a follow up workshop in about two weeks time. Many thanks to Ian and Ana for helping out and to Prof Nyamende from UCT's African languages department for organising the computer labs and inviting everyone.
Cheers,
-- Douglas Ian Scott 司道格 Skype: douglas0scott UK mobile number: +44 (0)755 452 5277 Chinese mobile number: +86 1 364 330 7351 South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727
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The workshop is almost entirely about editing. Well that and increasing awareness of how easy it is to edit and how much new editors are needed on African language Wikipedia. Looks like we will be having a follow up workshop on the 26th Feb but I will need to confirm that.
Thanks for the good wishes,
Douglas.
On 13 February 2012 17:28, Heather Ford hfordsa@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:10 AM, David Richfield wrote:
Congrats to you, Ian and everyone! Looks like great work is going on!
+1 Looking forward to hearing about their progress! Will editing be part of a class?
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Here are some of the previously promised pictures from Saturday's Wikipedia
workshop that I promised to send out. I think the event went well and I am
looking forward to doing a follow up workshop in about two weeks time.
Many thanks to Ian and Ana for helping out and to Prof Nyamende from UCT's
African languages department for organising the computer labs and inviting
everyone.
Cheers,
--
Douglas Ian Scott
司道格
Skype: douglas0scott
UK mobile number: +44 (0)755 452 5277
Chinese mobile number: +86 1 364 330 7351
South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727
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On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Douglas Scott wrote:
The workshop is almost entirely about editing. Well that and increasing awareness of how easy it is to edit and how much new editors are needed on African language Wikipedia. Looks like we will be having a follow up workshop on the 26th Feb but I will need to confirm that.
Great :) I'd be really interested to know whether people continued to edit after the workshop if you could share.
Looking forward to hearing more :)
best, Heather.
Thanks for the good wishes,
Douglas.
On 13 February 2012 17:28, Heather Ford hfordsa@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:10 AM, David Richfield wrote:
Congrats to you, Ian and everyone! Looks like great work is going on!
+1 Looking forward to hearing about their progress! Will editing be part of a class?
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Here are some of the previously promised pictures from Saturday's Wikipedia workshop that I promised to send out. I think the event went well and I am looking forward to doing a follow up workshop in about two weeks time. Many thanks to Ian and Ana for helping out and to Prof Nyamende from UCT's African languages department for organising the computer labs and inviting everyone.
Cheers,
-- Douglas Ian Scott 司道格 Skype: douglas0scott UK mobile number: +44 (0)755 452 5277 Chinese mobile number: +86 1 364 330 7351 South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727
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-- Douglas Ian Scott 司道格 Skype: douglas0scott UK mobile number: +44 (0)755 452 5277 Chinese mobile number: +86 1 364 330 7351 South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727
Heather Ford www.ethnographymatters.net @hfordsa on Twitter http://hblog.org
Great :) I'd be really interested to know whether people continued to edit after the workshop if you could share.
To try answer Heather, the article count went from 125, which it has been stuck at since at least November 2011, to 131 during the class, and there has only been one substantial edit from any of the participants on the weekend (a new article, increasing the count to 132) since the workshop, so the answer seems to be no.
The workshop was 2 hours, and, briefly, we hoped to teach creating a user account, creating or editing (via translation from English) an article, adding links, adding a picture, and I wanted to add interwiki links to the list as well. Everyone created or edited an article, and most, if not everyone, added links, though only some could create a user account due to IP limits, and very few got to adding an image or interwiki links. Douglas goes into more details in his post.
It's more complicated to add links in Xhosa than in English due to the way prefixes are used in the language, so quite often an article may exist, but the link doesn't point to it, and there are already duplicate articles for this reason.
There is still such a barrier with basic computer use, that I found a substantial portion of the class was showing people how to maximize and minimize windows, how to open a new tab or window, etc, and I got the sense that there wasn't always a real understanding of why the various steps were being performed, which reduces the chances of them being repeatable outside of the class.
The one article that was created afterwards is an orphan, with no incoming or outgoing links.
There was a lot of enthusiasm, so hopefully having a followup quite soon will keep the interest and momentum going, but I would expect there to be not much sustained activity as a result of the workshop alone.
Thank you so much, Ian. Appreciate it.
On Feb 13, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Ian Gilfillan wrote:
Great :) I'd be really interested to know whether people continued to edit after the workshop if you could share.
To try answer Heather, the article count went from 125, which it has been stuck at since at least November 2011, to 131 during the class, and there has only been one substantial edit from any of the participants on the weekend (a new article, increasing the count to 132) since the workshop, so the answer seems to be no.
The workshop was 2 hours, and, briefly, we hoped to teach creating a user account, creating or editing (via translation from English) an article, adding links, adding a picture, and I wanted to add interwiki links to the list as well. Everyone created or edited an article, and most, if not everyone, added links, though only some could create a user account due to IP limits, and very few got to adding an image or interwiki links. Douglas goes into more details in his post.
It's more complicated to add links in Xhosa than in English due to the way prefixes are used in the language, so quite often an article may exist, but the link doesn't point to it, and there are already duplicate articles for this reason.
There is still such a barrier with basic computer use, that I found a substantial portion of the class was showing people how to maximize and minimize windows, how to open a new tab or window, etc, and I got the sense that there wasn't always a real understanding of why the various steps were being performed, which reduces the chances of them being repeatable outside of the class.
The one article that was created afterwards is an orphan, with no incoming or outgoing links.
There was a lot of enthusiasm, so hopefully having a followup quite soon will keep the interest and momentum going, but I would expect there to be not much sustained activity as a result of the workshop alone.
-- Ian Gilfillan www.greenman.co.za
WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza
Heather Ford www.ethnographymatters.net @hfordsa on Twitter http://hblog.org
Hi,
Ian is absolutely right. Although the workshops them selves tend to create a number of articles creating a community of dedicated editors for Xhosa language Wikipedia will be a very big challenge that I think will take a long time. On the up side people are very eager and interested but on the down side, as Ian has mentioned, there are still problems with basic computer literacy and access to computers/internet. I suspect that it will take a number of workshops followed by some sort of program such as one (and this is only an idea right now) whereby teachers use Xhosa Wikipedia to test their students translating abilities thereby creating a self perpetuating process that continually exposes new people to editing that wiki.
As I mentioned to Ian on Saturday I think that a big part of creating a healthy community of editors on Wikipedia is finding enough people with the right type of personality that is at home using a computer. I think that is as much a numbers game as anything else which means spending a long time exposing as many people as possible to the idea and process of editing Wikipedia. A process that is made harder by relatively low rates of computer literacy. But then again we must start from some where I suppose. Either way, more work and support is needed and so long as I have free time and am in Cape Town I am happy help.
P.S. Thanks for checking the stats Ian. To be frank I am delighted that one extra substantial edit was made since the workshop on Saturday. That in its self is a 0.7% increase! :-D
On 14 February 2012 00:02, Heather Ford hfordsa@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you so much, Ian. Appreciate it.
On Feb 13, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Ian Gilfillan wrote:
Great :) I'd be really interested to know whether people continued to edit after the workshop if you could share.
To try answer Heather, the article count went from 125, which it has been stuck at since at least November 2011, to 131 during the class, and there has only been one substantial edit from any of the participants on the weekend (a new article, increasing the count to 132) since the workshop, so the answer seems to be no.
The workshop was 2 hours, and, briefly, we hoped to teach creating a user account, creating or editing (via translation from English) an article, adding links, adding a picture, and I wanted to add interwiki links to the list as well. Everyone created or edited an article, and most, if not everyone, added links, though only some could create a user account due to IP limits, and very few got to adding an image or interwiki links. Douglas goes into more details in his post.
It's more complicated to add links in Xhosa than in English due to the way prefixes are used in the language, so quite often an article may exist, but the link doesn't point to it, and there are already duplicate articles for this reason.
There is still such a barrier with basic computer use, that I found a substantial portion of the class was showing people how to maximize and minimize windows, how to open a new tab or window, etc, and I got the sense that there wasn't always a real understanding of why the various steps were being performed, which reduces the chances of them being repeatable outside of the class.
The one article that was created afterwards is an orphan, with no incoming or outgoing links.
There was a lot of enthusiasm, so hopefully having a followup quite soon will keep the interest and momentum going, but I would expect there to be not much sustained activity as a result of the workshop alone.
-- Ian Gilfillan www.greenman.co.za
WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza
Heather Ford www.ethnographymatters.net @hfordsa on Twitter http://hblog.org
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Hi all,
Very nice to see all the activities on the smaller South African language wikis! Hopefully this means a start for those projects. I have another idea to get some more things happening.
In Belgium I started the "Wiki Loves Monumentshttp://www.wikilovesmonuments.be/" competition. The goal for the participants was to take a picture of a heritage site and to post them on Wikicommons. The best images were selected and they could win a variety of prices (Belgium: iPad). It was part of a bigger European contest http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu/ (18 countries). The goal was to attract new contributors to the wiki projects, and for Belgium to gather some wikipedians to start our own Belgian wiki chapter.
The competition itself was fairly simple to organise. The European organisers provided tools, a website, logos, a dedicated Wiki Commons upload toolhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&uselang=wikilovesmonumentsbe, ... and also funding (10,000 ZAR). We made the translations (Belgium alone: five languages), we searched for our own jury, we searched for Belgian prices, and we got into contact with government organisations that helped us with a venue for the price ceremony and some more practical things.
The result was fantastic. 170.000 new images in Europe, of which 6000 in Belgium. Lots or media attention for the competition. At least 50 (!) new Belgian members that started working on Wikicommons or Wikipedia itself. A solid group of people that wanted to work on our own chapter. We established good contacts with government organisations that suddenly understood Wikipedia is not a black box but made by real people. Nice media coverage on the competition.
The European competition will be organised in September of this year. They would really enjoy SA to join in, and I'm sure WMF can help us with most of the funding. I think this is an easy way to get the attention of new people, especially from poorer regions (if we provide the necessary translations).
Who is interested to get more information, or to help with the organisation? We can meet in Cape Town, Durban or Johannesburg (I'm almost everywhere for my current job[?])
Grtz, Maarten
BE: +32 475 21 38 35 ZA: +27 71 491 31 38 Skype: mdeneckere
2012/2/14 Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com
Hi,
Ian is absolutely right. Although the workshops them selves tend to create a number of articles creating a community of dedicated editors for Xhosa language Wikipedia will be a very big challenge that I think will take a long time. On the up side people are very eager and interested but on the down side, as Ian has mentioned, there are still problems with basic computer literacy and access to computers/internet. I suspect that it will take a number of workshops followed by some sort of program such as one (and this is only an idea right now) whereby teachers use Xhosa Wikipedia to test their students translating abilities thereby creating a self perpetuating process that continually exposes new people to editing that wiki.
As I mentioned to Ian on Saturday I think that a big part of creating a healthy community of editors on Wikipedia is finding enough people with the right type of personality that is at home using a computer. I think that is as much a numbers game as anything else which means spending a long time exposing as many people as possible to the idea and process of editing Wikipedia. A process that is made harder by relatively low rates of computer literacy. But then again we must start from some where I suppose. Either way, more work and support is needed and so long as I have free time and am in Cape Town I am happy help.
P.S. Thanks for checking the stats Ian. To be frank I am delighted that one extra substantial edit was made since the workshop on Saturday. That in its self is a 0.7% increase! :-D
On 14 February 2012 00:02, Heather Ford hfordsa@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you so much, Ian. Appreciate it.
On Feb 13, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Ian Gilfillan wrote:
Great :) I'd be really interested to know whether people continued to edit after the workshop if you could share.
To try answer Heather, the article count went from 125, which it has been stuck at since at least November 2011, to 131 during the class, and there has only been one substantial edit from any of the participants on the weekend (a new article, increasing the count to 132) since the workshop, so the answer seems to be no.
The workshop was 2 hours, and, briefly, we hoped to teach creating a user account, creating or editing (via translation from English) an article, adding links, adding a picture, and I wanted to add interwiki links to the list as well. Everyone created or edited an article, and most, if not everyone, added links, though only some could create a user account due to IP limits, and very few got to adding an image or interwiki links. Douglas goes into more details in his post.
It's more complicated to add links in Xhosa than in English due to the way prefixes are used in the language, so quite often an article may exist, but the link doesn't point to it, and there are already duplicate articles for this reason.
There is still such a barrier with basic computer use, that I found a substantial portion of the class was showing people how to maximize and minimize windows, how to open a new tab or window, etc, and I got the sense that there wasn't always a real understanding of why the various steps were being performed, which reduces the chances of them being repeatable outside of the class.
The one article that was created afterwards is an orphan, with no incoming or outgoing links.
There was a lot of enthusiasm, so hopefully having a followup quite soon will keep the interest and momentum going, but I would expect there to be not much sustained activity as a result of the workshop alone.
-- Ian Gilfillan www.greenman.co.za
WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza
Heather Ford www.ethnographymatters.net @hfordsa on Twitter http://hblog.org
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-- Douglas Ian Scott 司道格 Skype: douglas0scott UK mobile number: +44 (0)755 452 5277 Chinese mobile number: +86 1 364 330 7351 South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727
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Hello Maarten
It is nice hearing from you again! It sounds to me like a wonderful idea, and I am sure that there will be some South Africans who would like to participate in this competition. What do the others from Wikimedia ZA think? I would definitely be interested to meet up with you and discuss the possibilities. When are you again in the Cape Town area?
Kind regards Lourie
From: MADe MADe@wikipedia.be To: wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Pictures from Saturday's Xhosa Wiki Workshop
Hi all,
Very nice to see all the activities on the smaller South African language wikis! Hopefully this means a start for those projects. I have another idea to get some more things happening.
In Belgium I started the "Wiki Loves Monuments" competition. The goal for the participants was to take a picture of a heritage site and to post them on Wikicommons. The best images were selected and they could win a variety of prices (Belgium: iPad). It was part of a bigger European contest (18 countries). The goal was to attract new contributors to the wiki projects, and for Belgium to gather some wikipedians to start our own Belgian wiki chapter.
The competition itself was fairly simple to organise. The European organisers provided tools, a website, logos, a dedicated Wiki Commons upload tool, ... and also funding (10,000 ZAR). We made the translations (Belgium alone: five languages), we searched for our own jury, we searched for Belgian prices, and we got into contact with government organisations that helped us with a venue for the price ceremony and some more practical things.
The result was fantastic. 170.000 new images in Europe, of which 6000 in Belgium. Lots or media attention for the competition. At least 50 (!) new Belgian members that started working on Wikicommons or Wikipedia itself. A solid group of people that wanted to work on our own chapter. We established good contacts with government organisations that suddenly understood Wikipedia is not a black box but made by real people. Nice media coverage on the competition.
The European competition will be organised in September of this year. They would really enjoy SA to join in, and I'm sure WMF can help us with most of the funding. I think this is an easy way to get the attention of new people, especially from poorer regions (if we provide the necessary translations).
Who is interested to get more information, or to help with the organisation? We can meet in Cape Town, Durban or Johannesburg (I'm almost everywhere for my current job)
Grtz, Maarten
BE: +32 475 21 38 35 ZA: +27 71 491 31 38 Skype: mdeneckere
2012/2/14 Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com
Hi,
Ian is absolutely right. Although the workshops them selves tend to create a number of articles creating a community of dedicated editors for Xhosa language Wikipedia will be a very big challenge that I think will take a long time. On the up side people are very eager and interested but on the down side, as Ian has mentioned, there are still problems with basic computer literacy and access to computers/internet. I suspect that it will take a number of workshops followed by some sort of program such as one (and this is only an idea right now) whereby teachers use Xhosa Wikipedia to test their students translating abilities thereby creating a self perpetuating process that continually exposes new people to editing that wiki.
As I mentioned to Ian on Saturday I think that a big part of creating a healthy community of editors on Wikipedia is finding enough people with the right type of personality that is at home using a computer. I think that is as much a numbers game as anything else which means spending a long time exposing as many people as possible to the idea and process of editing Wikipedia. A process that is made harder by relatively low rates of computer literacy. But then again we must start from some where I suppose. Either way, more work and support is needed and so long as I have free time and am in Cape Town I am happy help.
P.S. Thanks for checking the stats Ian. To be frank I am delighted that one extra substantial edit was made since the workshop on Saturday. That in its self is a 0.7% increase! :-D
On 14 February 2012 00:02, Heather Ford hfordsa@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you so much, Ian. Appreciate it.
On Feb 13, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Ian Gilfillan wrote:
Great :) I'd be really interested to know whether people continued to edit after the workshop if you could share.
To try answer Heather, the article count went from 125, which it has been stuck at since at least November 2011, to 131 during the class, and there has only been one substantial edit from any of the participants on the weekend (a new article, increasing the count to 132) since the workshop, so the answer seems to be no.
The workshop was 2 hours, and, briefly, we hoped to teach creating a user account, creating or editing (via translation from English) an article, adding links, adding a picture, and I wanted to add interwiki links to the list as well. Everyone created or edited an article, and most, if not everyone, added links, though only some could create a user account due to IP limits, and very few got to adding an image or interwiki links. Douglas goes into more details in his post.
It's more complicated to add links in Xhosa than in English due to the way prefixes are used in the language, so quite often an article may exist, but the link doesn't point to it, and there are already duplicate articles for this reason.
There is still such a barrier with basic computer use, that I found a substantial portion of the class was showing people how to maximize and minimize windows, how to open a new tab or window, etc, and I got the sense that there wasn't always a real understanding of why the various steps were being performed, which reduces the chances of them being repeatable outside of the class.
The one article that was created afterwards is an orphan, with no incoming or outgoing links.
There was a lot of enthusiasm, so hopefully having a followup quite soon will keep the interest and momentum going, but I would expect there to be not much sustained activity as a result of the workshop alone.
-- Ian Gilfillan www.greenman.co.za
WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza
Heather Ford www.ethnographymatters.net @hfordsa on Twitter http://hblog.org
WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza
-- Douglas Ian Scott 司道格 Skype: douglas0scott UK mobile number: +44 (0)755 452 5277 Chinese mobile number: +86 1 364 330 7351 South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727
WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza
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Hi Lourie
Yep, I'm with you. I think this is a great project, and - as you mentioned to me offline - really accessible for people to take part in and contribute. Some cool ideas also around it - we could organise an upload party where we could have a stall somewhere (at a university or shopping centre on a certain day) where we could help people upload their pics there and then.
I'm also happy to chat - maybe we could get together on skype even?
Kerryn
* * * * Kerryn McKay The African Commons Project
082 334 6165 skype: kerrynmac twitter: kerrynmckay
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Lourie Pieterse louriepieterse@yahoo.comwrote:
Hello Maarten
It is nice hearing from you again! It sounds to me like a wonderful idea, and I am sure that there will be some South Africans who would like to participate in this competition. What do the others from Wikimedia ZA think? I would definitely be interested to meet up with you and discuss the possibilities. When are you again in the Cape Town area?
Kind regards Lourie
*From:* MADe MADe@wikipedia.be *To:* wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2012 9:23 AM *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Pictures from Saturday's Xhosa Wiki Workshop
Hi all,
Very nice to see all the activities on the smaller South African language wikis! Hopefully this means a start for those projects. I have another idea to get some more things happening.
In Belgium I started the "Wiki Loves Monumentshttp://www.wikilovesmonuments.be/" competition. The goal for the participants was to take a picture of a heritage site and to post them on Wikicommons. The best images were selected and they could win a variety of prices (Belgium: iPad). It was part of a bigger European contest http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu/ (18 countries). The goal was to attract new contributors to the wiki projects, and for Belgium to gather some wikipedians to start our own Belgian wiki chapter.
The competition itself was fairly simple to organise. The European organisers provided tools, a website, logos, a dedicated Wiki Commons upload toolhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&uselang=wikilovesmonumentsbe, ... and also funding (10,000 ZAR). We made the translations (Belgium alone: five languages), we searched for our own jury, we searched for Belgian prices, and we got into contact with government organisations that helped us with a venue for the price ceremony and some more practical things.
The result was fantastic. 170.000 new images in Europe, of which 6000 in Belgium. Lots or media attention for the competition. At least 50 (!) new Belgian members that started working on Wikicommons or Wikipedia itself. A solid group of people that wanted to work on our own chapter. We established good contacts with government organisations that suddenly understood Wikipedia is not a black box but made by real people. Nice media coverage on the competition.
The European competition will be organised in September of this year. They would really enjoy SA to join in, and I'm sure WMF can help us with most of the funding. I think this is an easy way to get the attention of new people, especially from poorer regions (if we provide the necessary translations).
Who is interested to get more information, or to help with the organisation? We can meet in Cape Town, Durban or Johannesburg (I'm almost everywhere for my current job)
Grtz, Maarten
BE: +32 475 21 38 35 ZA: +27 71 491 31 38 Skype: mdeneckere
2012/2/14 Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com
Hi,
Ian is absolutely right. Although the workshops them selves tend to create a number of articles creating a community of dedicated editors for Xhosa language Wikipedia will be a very big challenge that I think will take a long time. On the up side people are very eager and interested but on the down side, as Ian has mentioned, there are still problems with basic computer literacy and access to computers/internet. I suspect that it will take a number of workshops followed by some sort of program such as one (and this is only an idea right now) whereby teachers use Xhosa Wikipedia to test their students translating abilities thereby creating a self perpetuating process that continually exposes new people to editing that wiki.
As I mentioned to Ian on Saturday I think that a big part of creating a healthy community of editors on Wikipedia is finding enough people with the right type of personality that is at home using a computer. I think that is as much a numbers game as anything else which means spending a long time exposing as many people as possible to the idea and process of editing Wikipedia. A process that is made harder by relatively low rates of computer literacy. But then again we must start from some where I suppose. Either way, more work and support is needed and so long as I have free time and am in Cape Town I am happy help.
P.S. Thanks for checking the stats Ian. To be frank I am delighted that one extra substantial edit was made since the workshop on Saturday. That in its self is a 0.7% increase! :-D
On 14 February 2012 00:02, Heather Ford hfordsa@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you so much, Ian. Appreciate it.
On Feb 13, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Ian Gilfillan wrote:
Great :) I'd be really interested to know whether people continued to edit after the workshop if you could share.
To try answer Heather, the article count went from 125, which it has been stuck at since at least November 2011, to 131 during the class, and there has only been one substantial edit from any of the participants on the weekend (a new article, increasing the count to 132) since the workshop, so the answer seems to be no.
The workshop was 2 hours, and, briefly, we hoped to teach creating a user account, creating or editing (via translation from English) an article, adding links, adding a picture, and I wanted to add interwiki links to the list as well. Everyone created or edited an article, and most, if not everyone, added links, though only some could create a user account due to IP limits, and very few got to adding an image or interwiki links. Douglas goes into more details in his post.
It's more complicated to add links in Xhosa than in English due to the way prefixes are used in the language, so quite often an article may exist, but the link doesn't point to it, and there are already duplicate articles for this reason.
There is still such a barrier with basic computer use, that I found a substantial portion of the class was showing people how to maximize and minimize windows, how to open a new tab or window, etc, and I got the sense that there wasn't always a real understanding of why the various steps were being performed, which reduces the chances of them being repeatable outside of the class.
The one article that was created afterwards is an orphan, with no incoming or outgoing links.
There was a lot of enthusiasm, so hopefully having a followup quite soon will keep the interest and momentum going, but I would expect there to be not much sustained activity as a result of the workshop alone.
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+1 yay! fab idea :)
On Feb 16, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Kerryn McKay wrote:
Hi Lourie
Yep, I'm with you. I think this is a great project, and - as you mentioned to me offline - really accessible for people to take part in and contribute. Some cool ideas also around it - we could organise an upload party where we could have a stall somewhere (at a university or shopping centre on a certain day) where we could help people upload their pics there and then.
I'm also happy to chat - maybe we could get together on skype even?
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On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Lourie Pieterse louriepieterse@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Maarten
It is nice hearing from you again! It sounds to me like a wonderful idea, and I am sure that there will be some South Africans who would like to participate in this competition. What do the others from Wikimedia ZA think? I would definitely be interested to meet up with you and discuss the possibilities. When are you again in the Cape Town area?
Kind regards Lourie
From: MADe MADe@wikipedia.be To: wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Pictures from Saturday's Xhosa Wiki Workshop
Hi all,
Very nice to see all the activities on the smaller South African language wikis! Hopefully this means a start for those projects. I have another idea to get some more things happening.
In Belgium I started the "Wiki Loves Monuments" competition. The goal for the participants was to take a picture of a heritage site and to post them on Wikicommons. The best images were selected and they could win a variety of prices (Belgium: iPad). It was part of a bigger European contest (18 countries). The goal was to attract new contributors to the wiki projects, and for Belgium to gather some wikipedians to start our own Belgian wiki chapter.
The competition itself was fairly simple to organise. The European organisers provided tools, a website, logos, a dedicated Wiki Commons upload tool, ... and also funding (10,000 ZAR). We made the translations (Belgium alone: five languages), we searched for our own jury, we searched for Belgian prices, and we got into contact with government organisations that helped us with a venue for the price ceremony and some more practical things.
The result was fantastic. 170.000 new images in Europe, of which 6000 in Belgium. Lots or media attention for the competition. At least 50 (!) new Belgian members that started working on Wikicommons or Wikipedia itself. A solid group of people that wanted to work on our own chapter. We established good contacts with government organisations that suddenly understood Wikipedia is not a black box but made by real people. Nice media coverage on the competition.
The European competition will be organised in September of this year. They would really enjoy SA to join in, and I'm sure WMF can help us with most of the funding. I think this is an easy way to get the attention of new people, especially from poorer regions (if we provide the necessary translations).
Who is interested to get more information, or to help with the organisation? We can meet in Cape Town, Durban or Johannesburg (I'm almost everywhere for my current job<338.gif>)
Grtz, Maarten
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2012/2/14 Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com Hi,
Ian is absolutely right. Although the workshops them selves tend to create a number of articles creating a community of dedicated editors for Xhosa language Wikipedia will be a very big challenge that I think will take a long time. On the up side people are very eager and interested but on the down side, as Ian has mentioned, there are still problems with basic computer literacy and access to computers/internet. I suspect that it will take a number of workshops followed by some sort of program such as one (and this is only an idea right now) whereby teachers use Xhosa Wikipedia to test their students translating abilities thereby creating a self perpetuating process that continually exposes new people to editing that wiki.
As I mentioned to Ian on Saturday I think that a big part of creating a healthy community of editors on Wikipedia is finding enough people with the right type of personality that is at home using a computer. I think that is as much a numbers game as anything else which means spending a long time exposing as many people as possible to the idea and process of editing Wikipedia. A process that is made harder by relatively low rates of computer literacy. But then again we must start from some where I suppose. Either way, more work and support is needed and so long as I have free time and am in Cape Town I am happy help.
P.S. Thanks for checking the stats Ian. To be frank I am delighted that one extra substantial edit was made since the workshop on Saturday. That in its self is a 0.7% increase! :-D
On 14 February 2012 00:02, Heather Ford hfordsa@gmail.com wrote: Thank you so much, Ian. Appreciate it.
On Feb 13, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Ian Gilfillan wrote:
Great :) I'd be really interested to know whether people continued to edit after the workshop if you could share.
To try answer Heather, the article count went from 125, which it has been stuck at since at least November 2011, to 131 during the class, and there has only been one substantial edit from any of the participants on the weekend (a new article, increasing the count to 132) since the workshop, so the answer seems to be no.
The workshop was 2 hours, and, briefly, we hoped to teach creating a user account, creating or editing (via translation from English) an article, adding links, adding a picture, and I wanted to add interwiki links to the list as well. Everyone created or edited an article, and most, if not everyone, added links, though only some could create a user account due to IP limits, and very few got to adding an image or interwiki links. Douglas goes into more details in his post.
It's more complicated to add links in Xhosa than in English due to the way prefixes are used in the language, so quite often an article may exist, but the link doesn't point to it, and there are already duplicate articles for this reason.
There is still such a barrier with basic computer use, that I found a substantial portion of the class was showing people how to maximize and minimize windows, how to open a new tab or window, etc, and I got the sense that there wasn't always a real understanding of why the various steps were being performed, which reduces the chances of them being repeatable outside of the class.
The one article that was created afterwards is an orphan, with no incoming or outgoing links.
There was a lot of enthusiasm, so hopefully having a followup quite soon will keep the interest and momentum going, but I would expect there to be not much sustained activity as a result of the workshop alone.
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Hi Douglas and Ian
That is tremendous, and I guess that there can't be massive activity leading from one workshop, especially given the lack of computer skill that you both note coupled with the apprehension to edit (all technical-related issues). Great that you are doing the follow-up because the only way to overcome that is by doing the follow up workshops so that people don't slip back; it's such a prevalent challenge in computer literacy training in general.
Douglas, your idea of 'embedding' some form of Wikipedia culture into a class scenario is very interesting, and wonder if some of these participants might consider it further down the line when they are more comfortable.
Kerryn
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On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
Ian is absolutely right. Although the workshops them selves tend to create a number of articles creating a community of dedicated editors for Xhosa language Wikipedia will be a very big challenge that I think will take a long time. On the up side people are very eager and interested but on the down side, as Ian has mentioned, there are still problems with basic computer literacy and access to computers/internet. I suspect that it will take a number of workshops followed by some sort of program such as one (and this is only an idea right now) whereby teachers use Xhosa Wikipedia to test their students translating abilities thereby creating a self perpetuating process that continually exposes new people to editing that wiki.
As I mentioned to Ian on Saturday I think that a big part of creating a healthy community of editors on Wikipedia is finding enough people with the right type of personality that is at home using a computer. I think that is as much a numbers game as anything else which means spending a long time exposing as many people as possible to the idea and process of editing Wikipedia. A process that is made harder by relatively low rates of computer literacy. But then again we must start from some where I suppose. Either way, more work and support is needed and so long as I have free time and am in Cape Town I am happy help.
P.S. Thanks for checking the stats Ian. To be frank I am delighted that one extra substantial edit was made since the workshop on Saturday. That in its self is a 0.7% increase! :-D
On 14 February 2012 00:02, Heather Ford hfordsa@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you so much, Ian. Appreciate it.
On Feb 13, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Ian Gilfillan wrote:
Great :) I'd be really interested to know whether people continued to edit after the workshop if you could share.
To try answer Heather, the article count went from 125, which it has been stuck at since at least November 2011, to 131 during the class, and there has only been one substantial edit from any of the participants on the weekend (a new article, increasing the count to 132) since the workshop, so the answer seems to be no.
The workshop was 2 hours, and, briefly, we hoped to teach creating a user account, creating or editing (via translation from English) an article, adding links, adding a picture, and I wanted to add interwiki links to the list as well. Everyone created or edited an article, and most, if not everyone, added links, though only some could create a user account due to IP limits, and very few got to adding an image or interwiki links. Douglas goes into more details in his post.
It's more complicated to add links in Xhosa than in English due to the way prefixes are used in the language, so quite often an article may exist, but the link doesn't point to it, and there are already duplicate articles for this reason.
There is still such a barrier with basic computer use, that I found a substantial portion of the class was showing people how to maximize and minimize windows, how to open a new tab or window, etc, and I got the sense that there wasn't always a real understanding of why the various steps were being performed, which reduces the chances of them being repeatable outside of the class.
The one article that was created afterwards is an orphan, with no incoming or outgoing links.
There was a lot of enthusiasm, so hopefully having a followup quite soon will keep the interest and momentum going, but I would expect there to be not much sustained activity as a result of the workshop alone.
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Hi Kerryn,
I am hoping that many of the people, some time down the line in the more distant future, will start editing when they are more comfortable with it or more inclined to edit Wikipedia. I after all only started doing serious editing back in 2010, about three or four years after I first made my user account on English Wikipedia.
Also I really like some of the ideas being thrown about. The Wiki Loves Monuments project sounds really great. Especially for a place like Africa which needs so much more content on Wikipedia then most other places.
Cheers,
Douglas.
On 14 February 2012 09:24, Kerryn McKay kerryn@africancommons.org wrote:
Hi Douglas and Ian
That is tremendous, and I guess that there can't be massive activity leading from one workshop, especially given the lack of computer skill that you both note coupled with the apprehension to edit (all technical-related issues). Great that you are doing the follow-up because the only way to overcome that is by doing the follow up workshops so that people don't slip back; it's such a prevalent challenge in computer literacy training in general.
Douglas, your idea of 'embedding' some form of Wikipedia culture into a class scenario is very interesting, and wonder if some of these participants might consider it further down the line when they are more comfortable.
Kerryn
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On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
Ian is absolutely right. Although the workshops them selves tend to create a number of articles creating a community of dedicated editors for Xhosa language Wikipedia will be a very big challenge that I think will take a long time. On the up side people are very eager and interested but on the down side, as Ian has mentioned, there are still problems with basic computer literacy and access to computers/internet. I suspect that it will take a number of workshops followed by some sort of program such as one (and this is only an idea right now) whereby teachers use Xhosa Wikipedia to test their students translating abilities thereby creating a self perpetuating process that continually exposes new people to editing that wiki.
As I mentioned to Ian on Saturday I think that a big part of creating a healthy community of editors on Wikipedia is finding enough people with the right type of personality that is at home using a computer. I think that is as much a numbers game as anything else which means spending a long time exposing as many people as possible to the idea and process of editing Wikipedia. A process that is made harder by relatively low rates of computer literacy. But then again we must start from some where I suppose. Either way, more work and support is needed and so long as I have free time and am in Cape Town I am happy help.
P.S. Thanks for checking the stats Ian. To be frank I am delighted that one extra substantial edit was made since the workshop on Saturday. That in its self is a 0.7% increase! :-D
On 14 February 2012 00:02, Heather Ford hfordsa@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you so much, Ian. Appreciate it.
On Feb 13, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Ian Gilfillan wrote:
Great :) I'd be really interested to know whether people continued to edit after the workshop if you could share.
To try answer Heather, the article count went from 125, which it has been stuck at since at least November 2011, to 131 during the class, and there has only been one substantial edit from any of the participants on the weekend (a new article, increasing the count to 132) since the workshop, so the answer seems to be no.
The workshop was 2 hours, and, briefly, we hoped to teach creating a user account, creating or editing (via translation from English) an article, adding links, adding a picture, and I wanted to add interwiki links to the list as well. Everyone created or edited an article, and most, if not everyone, added links, though only some could create a user account due to IP limits, and very few got to adding an image or interwiki links. Douglas goes into more details in his post.
It's more complicated to add links in Xhosa than in English due to the way prefixes are used in the language, so quite often an article may exist, but the link doesn't point to it, and there are already duplicate articles for this reason.
There is still such a barrier with basic computer use, that I found a substantial portion of the class was showing people how to maximize and minimize windows, how to open a new tab or window, etc, and I got the sense that there wasn't always a real understanding of why the various steps were being performed, which reduces the chances of them being repeatable outside of the class.
The one article that was created afterwards is an orphan, with no incoming or outgoing links.
There was a lot of enthusiasm, so hopefully having a followup quite soon will keep the interest and momentum going, but I would expect there to be not much sustained activity as a result of the workshop alone.
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Hi, Douglas.
This is fantastic news! Congratulations on pulling this off.
Did you use any existing training resources (if so, which?), or your own design (if so, is it written up?)
I would also like to remind all reading that the WMF would be happy to support WMZA in outreach activities, with funds, merchandise, advice, guest posts on the Wikimedia Blog, and any other resources we may be able to offer.
Thanks,
Asaf
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.comwrote:
The workshop is almost entirely about editing. Well that and increasing awareness of how easy it is to edit and how much new editors are needed on African language Wikipedia. Looks like we will be having a follow up workshop on the 26th Feb but I will need to confirm that.
Thanks for the good wishes,
Douglas.
On 13 February 2012 17:28, Heather Ford hfordsa@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:10 AM, David Richfield wrote:
Congrats to you, Ian and everyone! Looks like great work is going on!
+1 Looking forward to hearing about their progress! Will editing be part of a class?
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Here are some of the previously promised pictures from Saturday's Wikipedia
workshop that I promised to send out. I think the event went well and I am
looking forward to doing a follow up workshop in about two weeks time.
Many thanks to Ian and Ana for helping out and to Prof Nyamende from UCT's
African languages department for organising the computer labs and inviting
everyone.
Cheers,
--
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Thanks Asaf,
It the moment the only training resources I use is a very short Power Point (about 2 slides but might expand it to 3 although I decided to ditch it at the last workshop) detailing the small size of Xhosa Wikipedia to other Wikipedias and a short list of editing dos and don's. The first slide is to illustrate how badly Xhosa and other African language Wikipedias need more editors such as the people I am talking to. Having said that I don't think the Power Point is all that important and at the last workshop I ditched it. The most important things I need is a computer lab so everyone has a computer and a projector for me to show everyone how to go about editing instead of having to visit everyone individually.
The most important part is just a series of very simple exercises I go through with them. I start by showing them how to find the Xhosa language Wikipedia easily and we then start the first exercise which is setting up their user profile on Wikipedia. Once their user profiles are all up and running I just get them to write a few sentences about them selves on their profile. This is done to show them how easy it is to edit a page on Wikipedia as well as get the registered (although that goes without saying). I it surprising how many people are afraid to edit Wikipedia because they think it is some how beyond their abilities. I then get then to edit their now already existing user page and add one more sentence or change a word. This is done so as to show them that they can go back and edit or update a page/article on Wikipedia when ever and where ever they like.
Once that is done I then get everyone to visit English language Wikipedia in a different browser window so that Xhosa Wikipedia and English Wikipedia can be viewed along side each other at the same time. They then select a topic of their liking and search for it on Xhosa Wikipedia to see if it has been created yet. Because Xhosa Wikipedia is so small, only about 125 articles when I first looked at it a few weeks ago, that page almost always does not yet exist. They then look up the equivalent page on English Wikipedia and translate the first paragraph into the article page on Xhosa Wikipedia. This can take a while because although these people are professional linguists and Xhosa/English translators they often have to translate some very technical terms. After that is done and they have previewed the page a couple times before it is published they create a new page on Xhosa Wikipedia. This is followed by a short exercise in showing them how to add a few links to other relevant articles on Xhosa Wikipedia. The exercise is finished off with a short reminder that they can and are encouraged to go back and edit their newly created pages when ever they like and add more information to it.
Then if we have time I will show them how to add a picture to their newly created page. People really seem to respond very well when they see their newly created pages with a picture that effectively illustrates the article. They seem to get a much greater feeling of pride and joy once they see it.
I don't deal with teaching them how to add links to other language equivalent pages or add table because we just don't have the time to do it in one 2 hour workshop. That's some thing for a follow up workshop.
About the only other resource I use is a lazer pointer for the projector. Other then that I often bring my laptop with a mobile dongle so people can access the internet and log onto Wikipedia in case there are no computers or only one computer available. This was the case at UWC a few weeks back.
I hope that answers your question?
Best,
Douglas.
On 13 February 2012 22:17, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi, Douglas.
This is fantastic news! Congratulations on pulling this off.
Did you use any existing training resources (if so, which?), or your own design (if so, is it written up?)
I would also like to remind all reading that the WMF would be happy to support WMZA in outreach activities, with funds, merchandise, advice, guest posts on the Wikimedia Blog, and any other resources we may be able to offer.
Thanks,
Asaf
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott@gmail.com
wrote:
The workshop is almost entirely about editing. Well that and increasing awareness of how easy it is to edit and how much new editors are needed on African language Wikipedia. Looks like we will be having a follow up workshop on the 26th Feb but I will need to confirm that.
Thanks for the good wishes,
Douglas.
On 13 February 2012 17:28, Heather Ford hfordsa@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:10 AM, David Richfield wrote:
Congrats to you, Ian and everyone! Looks like great work is going on!
+1 Looking forward to hearing about their progress! Will editing be part of a class?
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
Here are some of the previously promised pictures from Saturday's Wikipedia
workshop that I promised to send out. I think the event went well and I am
looking forward to doing a follow up workshop in about two weeks time.
Many thanks to Ian and Ana for helping out and to Prof Nyamende from UCT's
African languages department for organising the computer labs and inviting
everyone.
Cheers,
--
Douglas Ian Scott
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Very cool Douglas, and wonderful to see the spike of activity on xh.wp on the 11th!
http://xh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=10...
Hopefully the first of many successful projects in African languages.
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Hello everyone,
Here are some of the previously promised pictures from Saturday's Wikipedia workshop that I promised to send out. I think the event went well and I am looking forward to doing a follow up workshop in about two weeks time. Many thanks to Ian and Ana for helping out and to Prof Nyamende from UCT's African languages department for organising the computer labs and inviting everyone.
Cheers,
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