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David Richfield

16 Aug 2010 16 Aug '10

6:39 p.m.

Hi all, Bence proposed a logo according to the Wikimedia official marks guidelines: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks I've uploaded it to the wikimedia za page, but I really just dumped it there. Feel free to reformat... -- David Richfield e^(πi)+1=0

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Ian Gilfillan

16 Aug 16 Aug

7:37 p.m.

Thanks Nic for offering the floor space, and David, Nico and Bence for help with the logo. Firstly, let's get someone to attend. Is anyone on this list willing to be at a stand on Software Freedom Day at the CSIR in Pretoria? Then, regarding the logo, let's be clear to differentiate between Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation. Wikipedia is only one (albeit the most well known) of the projects administered by the Wikimedia Foundation. We would be Wikimedia South Africa, with the same design as appears at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_chapters_logos The logo Bence proposed is at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikimediaZALogo.svg I'd prefer it to read "South Africa" rather than "ZA" though - what do others think? Strictly speaking, the logos can only be used by "approved Wikimedia Foundation partners or chapter organizations". We haven't been approved yet, but I've emailed the provided address to ask for permission to use the logo. -- Ian Gilfillan www.greenman.co.za

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David Richfield

17 Aug 17 Aug

6:36 a.m.

Firstly, let's get someone to attend. Is anyone on this list willing to be at a stand on Software Freedom Day at the CSIR in Pretoria?

I'll be there for sure, but the more the merrier.

Then, regarding the logo, let's be clear to differentiate between Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation. Wikipedia is only one (albeit the most well known) of the projects administered by the Wikimedia Foundation. We would be Wikimedia South Africa, with the same design as appears at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_chapters_logos The logo Bence proposed is at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikimediaZALogo.svg I'd prefer it to read "South Africa" rather than "ZA" though - what do others think?

I'd like the logo to be language neutral, and ZA is our country TLD. This is similar to what Switzerland did: Their logo says Wikimedia CH.

Strictly speaking, the logos can only be used by "approved Wikimedia Foundation partners or chapter organizations". We haven't been approved yet, but I've emailed the provided address to ask for permission to use the logo.

You have a good point about maybe rather attending the SFD as Wikimedia, not just Wikipedia. Let us know what ChapCom says. -- David Richfield

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Kerryn McKay

6:39 a.m.

Hi David, Ian, Nic (and all!) This sounds great. Depending on what your want the focus to be - ie Wikipedia or Wikimedia, we have a Wikipedia Academies pull-up banner that we had made for the Wikipedia Academy a few years back. So if you go specifically Wikipedia you are welcome to use that. ... Just putting that out there :) ... Cheers Kerryn * * * * KERRYN MCKAY director, The African Commons Project email me at: kerryn(a)africancommons.org phone me: +2711 486 0211, cell: +27 82 334 6165, skype me: kerrynmac On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:36 AM, David Richfield <davidrichfield(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

Firstly, let's get someone to attend. Is anyone on this list willing to

be at a stand on Software Freedom Day at the CSIR in Pretoria? I'll be there for sure, but the more the merrier.

Then, regarding the logo, let's be clear to differentiate between

Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation. Wikipedia is only one (albeit the most well known) of the projects administered by the Wikimedia Foundation. We would be Wikimedia South Africa, with the same design as appears at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_chapters_logos

The logo Bence proposed is at

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikimediaZALogo.svg I'd prefer it to read "South Africa" rather than "ZA" though - what do others think? I'd like the logo to be language neutral, and ZA is our country TLD. This is similar to what Switzerland did: Their logo says Wikimedia CH.

Strictly speaking, the logos can only be used by "approved Wikimedia

Foundation partners or chapter organizations". We haven't been approved yet, but I've emailed the provided address to ask for permission to use the logo. You have a good point about maybe rather attending the SFD as Wikimedia, not just Wikipedia. Let us know what ChapCom says. -- David Richfield _______________________________________________ WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza

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David Richfield

6:43 a.m.

Hi Kerryn, That sounds great - we'll definitely be able to use that whether or not we also print out a Wikimedia banner. Wikipedia is after all the flagship project of Wikimedia. Will you be coming to the SFD, or should I pick it up from you on the way?

This sounds great. Depending on what your want the focus to be - ie Wikipedia or Wikimedia, we have a Wikipedia Academies pull-up banner that we had made for the Wikipedia Academy a few years back. So if you go specifically Wikipedia you are welcome to use that.

-- David Richfield e^(πi)+1=0

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Nic Roets

8:41 a.m.

Hello Ian, To make it clear: We are private individuals talking about Wikipedia and OpenStreetMap. The logos (be they on banners that we print or netbands, stickers and pins that Bence and Delphine supplied) are only used by us to indicate where those conversations and demonstrations are taking place. Regards, Nic On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Ian Gilfillan <wikimediaza(a)greenman.co.za>wrote;wrote:

Thanks Nic for offering the floor space, and David, Nico and Bence for help with the logo. Firstly, let's get someone to attend. Is anyone on this list willing to be at a stand on Software Freedom Day at the CSIR in Pretoria? Then, regarding the logo, let's be clear to differentiate between Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation. Wikipedia is only one (albeit the most well known) of the projects administered by the Wikimedia Foundation. We would be Wikimedia South Africa, with the same design as appears at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_chapters_logos The logo Bence proposed is at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikimediaZALogo.svg I'd prefer it to read "South Africa" rather than "ZA" though - what do others think? Strictly speaking, the logos can only be used by "approved Wikimedia Foundation partners or chapter organizations". We haven't been approved yet, but I've emailed the provided address to ask for permission to use the logo. -- Ian Gilfillan www.greenman.co.za _______________________________________________ WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza

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David Richfield

8:47 a.m.

My question about the Wikimedia ZA logo is more about whether we can use a logo for a proposed organisation (i.e. one that doesn't exist yet). On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Nic Roets <nroets(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Ian, To make it clear: We are private individuals talking about Wikipedia and OpenStreetMap. The logos (be they on banners that we print or netbands, stickers and pins that Bence and Delphine supplied) are only used by us to indicate where those conversations and demonstrations are taking place. Regards, Nic

-- David Richfield e^(πi)+1=0

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bnewstead＠wikimedia.org

2:34 p.m.

It would be fine for you to use the Wikimedia and Wikipedia logos for this event. As mentioned earlier, we generally approve trademark usage for community groups where they are conducting outreach on behalf of the Wikimedia movement. Hope it won't be too long until the chapter is formed and can just do it. Cheers, Barry Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: David Richfield <davidrichfield(a)gmail.com> Sender: wikimediaza-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:47:17 To: Nic Roets<nroets(a)gmail.com> Cc: wikimediaza<wikimediaza(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Logo proposed My question about the Wikimedia ZA logo is more about whether we can use a logo for a proposed organisation (i.e. one that doesn't exist yet). On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Nic Roets <nroets(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Ian, To make it clear: We are private individuals talking about Wikipedia and OpenStreetMap. The logos (be they on banners that we print or netbands, stickers and pins that Bence and Delphine supplied) are only used by us to indicate where those conversations and demonstrations are taking place. Regards, Nic

-- David Richfield e^(πi)+1=0 _______________________________________________ WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza

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