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Lourie Pieterse

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________________________________ From: Pieter Rubeus <master(a)impireholdings.com> To: LouriePieterse <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 9:05 PM Subject: page Pieter Rubeus mark for speedy deletion Hi Laurie Can you possibly assist me in creating the following page correctly to get it to be listed as it has many issues on it. The user talk page has the details in it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pieter_Rubeus It seems that the edited pages was deleted and I added the correct one now for Jim Bleak, but I would like to have some expert advice on how to conform the article in a manner that it is understandable and usable and conforms to international standards. It need to reference to the NAME USAGE OF RUBEUS including the interpreting of the name as well as the explanation of the name itself and not to me or the family of rubeus. I will appreciate your response to it. Regards Pieter Rubeus www.rubeus.co.za pieter(a)rubeus.co.za 0736527925 -- This email was sent by user "Pieter Rubeus" on the English Wikipedia to user "LouriePieterse". It has been automatically delivered and the Wikimedia Foundation cannot be held responsible for its contents. The sender has not been given the recipient's email address, nor any information about his/her email account; and the recipient has no obligation to reply to this email or take any other action that might disclose his/her identity. If you respond, the sender will know your email address. For further information on privacy, security, and replying, as well as abuse and removal from emailing, see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Email>.

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David Richfield

11 May 11 May

9:42 p.m.

I've put a bit of a reply on the talk page as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pieter_Rubeus&diff=… I seriously doubt that this editor has a primary interest in improving Wikipedia beyond promoting his winery, though. On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Lourie Pieterse <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

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Hello Pieter Sorry for only replying to your message now, I have been away for the long weekend and got surprised with quite a backlog of emails. I see that there have been responses on your talk page regarding the matter. Do you still need support from my side? The links posted there are very good starting points and I would have suggested the same. I also copied the Wikimedia ZA general mailing list. I am sure that we will also get responses from some of the members there, whom are most probably more active contributors than me. Kind regards Lourie ________________________________ From: Pieter Rubeus <master(a)impireholdings.com> To: LouriePieterse <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 9:05 PM Subject: page Pieter Rubeus mark for speedy deletion Hi Laurie Can you possibly assist me in creating the following page correctly to get it to be listed as it has many issues on it. The user talk page has the details in it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pieter_Rubeus It seems that the edited pages was deleted and I added the correct one now for Jim Bleak, but I would like to have some expert advice on how to conform the article in a manner that it is understandable and usable and conforms to international standards. It need to reference to the NAME USAGE OF RUBEUS including the interpreting of the name as well as the explanation of the name itself and not to me or the family of rubeus. I will appreciate your response to it. Regards Pieter Rubeus www.rubeus.co.za pieter(a)rubeus.co.za 0736527925 -- This email was sent by user "Pieter Rubeus" on the English Wikipedia to user "LouriePieterse". It has been automatically delivered and the Wikimedia Foundation cannot be held responsible for its contents. The sender has not been given the recipient's email address, nor any information about his/her email account; and the recipient has no obligation to reply to this email or take any other action that might disclose his/her identity. If you respond, the sender will know your email address. For further information on privacy, security, and replying, as well as abuse and removal from emailing, see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Email>. _______________________________________________ WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza

-- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985

Douglas Scott

12 May 12 May

9:07 a.m.

I had a look at the talk page. What on Earth is all that stuff about the meaning of *Rubeus *in User: Pieter Rubeus's reply? Looks very airy fairy to me. On 11 May 2013 23:42, David Richfield <davidrichfield(a)gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hello Pieter Sorry for only replying to your message now, I have been away for the

long

weekend and got surprised with quite a backlog of emails. I see that

there

have been responses on your talk page regarding the matter. Do you still need support from my side? The links posted there are very good starting points and I would have suggested the same. I also copied the Wikimedia ZA general mailing list. I am sure that we

will

also get responses from some of the members there, whom are most probably more active contributors than me. Kind regards Lourie ________________________________ From: Pieter Rubeus <master(a)impireholdings.com> To: LouriePieterse <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 9:05 PM Subject: page Pieter Rubeus mark for speedy deletion Hi Laurie Can you possibly assist me in creating the following page correctly to

get

it to be listed as it has many issues on it. The user talk page has the details in it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pieter_Rubeus It seems that the edited pages was deleted and I added the correct one

now

for Jim Bleak, but I would like to have some expert advice on how to

conform

the article in a manner that it is understandable and usable and

conforms to

international standards. It need to reference to the NAME USAGE OF RUBEUS including the

interpreting

of the name as well as the explanation of the name itself and not to me

the family of rubeus. I will appreciate your response to it. Regards Pieter Rubeus www.rubeus.co.za pieter(a)rubeus.co.za 0736527925 -- This email was sent by user "Pieter Rubeus" on the English Wikipedia to

user

"LouriePieterse". It has been automatically delivered and the Wikimedia Foundation cannot be held responsible for its contents. The sender has not been given the recipient's email address, nor any information about his/her email account; and the recipient has no

obligation

to reply to this email or take any other action that might disclose

his/her

identity. If you respond, the sender will know your email address. For further information on privacy, security, and replying, as well as abuse

and

removal from emailing, see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Email . _______________________________________________ WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza

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Kieran O'Neill

10:51 p.m.

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Hello Pieter Sorry for only replying to your message now, I have been away for the

long

weekend and got surprised with quite a backlog of emails. I see that

there

will

also get responses from some of the members there, whom are most

probably

more active contributors than me. Kind regards Lourie ________________________________ From: Pieter Rubeus <master(a)impireholdings.com> To: LouriePieterse <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 9:05 PM Subject: page Pieter Rubeus mark for speedy deletion Hi Laurie Can you possibly assist me in creating the following page correctly to

get

now

for Jim Bleak, but I would like to have some expert advice on how to

conform

the article in a manner that it is understandable and usable and

conforms to

international standards. It need to reference to the NAME USAGE OF RUBEUS including the

interpreting

of the name as well as the explanation of the name itself and not to me

user

obligation

to reply to this email or take any other action that might disclose

his/her

identity. If you respond, the sender will know your email address. For further information on privacy, security, and replying, as well as

abuse and

removal from emailing, see <

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Email>gt;.

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David Richfield

13 May 13 May

5:22 a.m.

Thanks for picking that one up, Kieran! I'll definitely proceed with caution. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Kieran O'Neill <oneillkza(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I had a look at the talk page. What on Earth is all that stuff about the meaning of Rubeus in User: Pieter Rubeus's reply? Looks very airy fairy to me. On 11 May 2013 23:42, David Richfield <davidrichfield(a)gmail.com> wrote:

-- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985

Kieran O'Neill

6:46 a.m.

Well, he responded fairly poorly (abusively) to my removing copyvio material from his user pages, and my (I thought fairly polite) explanation of why it isn't allowed on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APieter_Rubeus&dif… Anyway, he seems to be requesting that his account be deleted, and that would probably be for the best, given his apparent unwillingness to abide by any of the community's standards. On 12 May 2013 22:22, David Richfield <davidrichfield(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Thanks for picking that one up, Kieran! I'll definitely proceed with caution. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Kieran O'Neill <oneillkza(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Googling his name suggests that he may have a recent (2010) conviction

for

fraud. It could of course be another Petrus Salomo Rubeus, but given his insistence on the uniqueness of this name, that seems unlikely. That news article could have been fabricated as well, but regardless, I think we should exercise caution. http://152.111.11.6/argief/berigte/volksblad/2010/11/11/VB/4/MITAKS.html Also, Googling chunks of text from both his talk page and another user

page

he has created suggests that large chunks is outright copyvio material (which I have since deleted). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pieter_Rubeus/Rubeus_Heraldry I agree with David -- I don't think it is likely that he has any

interest in

Wikipedia beyond self-promotion. On 12 May 2013 02:07, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I had a look at the talk page. What on Earth is all that stuff about

the

> meaning of Rubeus in User: Pieter Rubeus's reply? Looks very airy

fairy to

> me. > > > On 11 May 2013 23:42, David Richfield <davidrichfield(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I've put a bit of a reply on the talk page as well: >> >>

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pieter_Rubeus&diff=…

>> I seriously doubt that this editor has a primary interest in improving >> Wikipedia beyond promoting his winery, though. >> >> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Lourie Pieterse >> <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> > Hello Pieter >> > >> > Sorry for only replying to your message now, I have been away for the >> > long >> > weekend and got surprised with quite a backlog of emails. I see that >> > there >> > have been responses on your talk page regarding the matter. Do you >> > still >> > need support from my side? The links posted there are very good >> > starting >> > points and I would have suggested the same. >> > >> > I also copied the Wikimedia ZA general mailing list. I am sure that

>> > will >> > also get responses from some of the members there, whom are most >> > probably >> > more active contributors than me. >> > >> > Kind regards >> > Lourie >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Pieter Rubeus <master(a)impireholdings.com> >> > To: LouriePieterse <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com> >> > Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 9:05 PM >> > Subject: page Pieter Rubeus mark for speedy deletion >> > >> > Hi Laurie >> > >> > Can you possibly assist me in creating the following page correctly

>> > get >> > it to be listed as it has many issues on it. >> > >> > The user talk page has the details in it: >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pieter_Rubeus >> > >> > It seems that the edited pages was deleted and I added the correct

one

>> > now >> > for Jim Bleak, but I would like to have some expert advice on how to >> > conform >> > the article in a manner that it is understandable and usable and >> > conforms to >> > international standards. >> > >> > It need to reference to the NAME USAGE OF RUBEUS including the >> > interpreting >> > of the name as well as the explanation of the name itself and not to

>> > or >> > the family of rubeus. >> > >> > I will appreciate your response to it. >> > >> > Regards >> > Pieter Rubeus >> > www.rubeus.co.za >> > pieter(a)rubeus.co.za >> > 0736527925 >> > >> > -- >> > This email was sent by user "Pieter Rubeus" on the English Wikipedia

>> > user >> > "LouriePieterse". It has been automatically delivered and the

Wikimedia

>> > Foundation cannot be held responsible for its contents. >> > >> > The sender has not been given the recipient's email address, nor any >> > information about his/her email account; and the recipient has no >> > obligation >> > to reply to this email or take any other action that might disclose >> > his/her >> > identity. If you respond, the sender will know your email address.

For

> further information on privacy, security, and replying, as well as > abuse and > removal from emailing, see > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Email>. > > > > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaZA mailing list > WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza > -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 _______________________________________________ WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza

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Douglas Scott

8:02 a.m.

I had a look at the talk page again and he is indeed now responding very abusively which is sad given how fair and even handed Kieran has been. I agree that his request for his account to be deleted be granted given his unwillingness to abide by community standards. On 13 May 2013 08:46, Kieran O'Neill <oneillkza(a)gmail.com> wrote:

...

Thanks for picking that one up, Kieran! I'll definitely proceed with caution. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Kieran O'Neill <oneillkza(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Googling his name suggests that he may have a recent (2010) conviction

for

fraud. It could of course be another Petrus Salomo Rubeus, but given his insistence on the uniqueness of this name, that seems unlikely. That

news

article could have been fabricated as well, but regardless, I think we should exercise caution.

http://152.111.11.6/argief/berigte/volksblad/2010/11/11/VB/4/MITAKS.html

Also, Googling chunks of text from both his talk page and another user

page

interest in

Wikipedia beyond self-promotion. On 12 May 2013 02:07, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I had a look at the talk page. What on Earth is all that stuff about

the

> meaning of Rubeus in User: Pieter Rubeus's reply? Looks very airy

fairy to

> me. > > > On 11 May 2013 23:42, David Richfield <davidrichfield(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

>> >> I've put a bit of a reply on the talk page as well: >> >>

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pieter_Rubeus&diff=…

the

>> > long >> > weekend and got surprised with quite a backlog of emails. I see that >> > there >> > have been responses on your talk page regarding the matter. Do you >> > still >> > need support from my side? The links posted there are very good >> > starting >> > points and I would have suggested the same. >> > >> > I also copied the Wikimedia ZA general mailing list. I am sure that

one

to me

Wikipedia to

>> > user >> > "LouriePieterse". It has been automatically delivered and the

Wikimedia

For

> > further information on privacy, security, and replying, as well as > > abuse and > > removal from emailing, see > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Email>. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WikimediaZA mailing list > > WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza > > > > > > -- > David Richfield > [[:en:User:Slashme]] > +27718539985 > > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaZA mailing list > WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza -- Douglas Ian Scott 司道格 Skype: douglas0scott South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 872 _______________________________________________ WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza

-- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985

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Ian Gilfillan

10:22 a.m.

New subject: May 2013 African language Wikipedia update

Hi Here's the latest African language update: http://www.greenman.co.za/blog/?p=1108 -- Ian Gilfillan www.greenman.co.za

David Richfield

11:14 a.m.

I've put a warning on his talk page, and asked for advice at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#A_troublesome_new_user David On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com> wrote:

...

Thanks for picking that one up, Kieran! I'll definitely proceed with caution. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Kieran O'Neill <oneillkza(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Googling his name suggests that he may have a recent (2010) conviction for fraud. It could of course be another Petrus Salomo Rubeus, but given his insistence on the uniqueness of this name, that seems unlikely. That news article could have been fabricated as well, but regardless, I think we should exercise caution. http://152.111.11.6/argief/berigte/volksblad/2010/11/11/VB/4/MITAKS.html Also, Googling chunks of text from both his talk page and another user page he has created suggests that large chunks is outright copyvio material (which I have since deleted). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pieter_Rubeus/Rubeus_Heraldry I agree with David -- I don't think it is likely that he has any interest in Wikipedia beyond self-promotion. On 12 May 2013 02:07, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I had a look at the talk page. What on Earth is all that stuff about > the > meaning of Rubeus in User: Pieter Rubeus's reply? Looks very airy > fairy to > me. > > > On 11 May 2013 23:42, David Richfield <davidrichfield(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> I've put a bit of a reply on the talk page as well: >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pieter_Rubeus&diff=… >> I seriously doubt that this editor has a primary interest in >> improving >> Wikipedia beyond promoting his winery, though. >> >> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Lourie Pieterse >> <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> > Hello Pieter >> > >> > Sorry for only replying to your message now, I have been away for >> > the >> > long >> > weekend and got surprised with quite a backlog of emails. I see >> > that >> > there >> > have been responses on your talk page regarding the matter. Do you >> > still >> > need support from my side? The links posted there are very good >> > starting >> > points and I would have suggested the same. >> > >> > I also copied the Wikimedia ZA general mailing list. I am sure that >> > we >> > will >> > also get responses from some of the members there, whom are most >> > probably >> > more active contributors than me. >> > >> > Kind regards >> > Lourie >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Pieter Rubeus <master(a)impireholdings.com> >> > To: LouriePieterse <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com> >> > Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 9:05 PM >> > Subject: page Pieter Rubeus mark for speedy deletion >> > >> > Hi Laurie >> > >> > Can you possibly assist me in creating the following page correctly >> > to >> > get >> > it to be listed as it has many issues on it. >> > >> > The user talk page has the details in it: >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pieter_Rubeus >> > >> > It seems that the edited pages was deleted and I added the correct >> > one >> > now >> > for Jim Bleak, but I would like to have some expert advice on how >> > to >> > conform >> > the article in a manner that it is understandable and usable and >> > conforms to >> > international standards. >> > >> > It need to reference to the NAME USAGE OF RUBEUS including the >> > interpreting >> > of the name as well as the explanation of the name itself and not >> > to me >> > or >> > the family of rubeus. >> > >> > I will appreciate your response to it. >> > >> > Regards >> > Pieter Rubeus >> > www.rubeus.co.za >> > pieter(a)rubeus.co.za >> > 0736527925 >> > >> > -- >> > This email was sent by user "Pieter Rubeus" on the English >> > Wikipedia to >> > user >> > "LouriePieterse". It has been automatically delivered and the >> > Wikimedia >> > Foundation cannot be held responsible for its contents. >> > >> > The sender has not been given the recipient's email address, nor >> > any >> > information about his/her email account; and the recipient has no >> > obligation >> > to reply to this email or take any other action that might disclose >> > his/her >> > identity. If you respond, the sender will know your email address. >> > For >> > further information on privacy, security, and replying, as well as >> > abuse and >> > removal from emailing, see >> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Email>. >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > WikimediaZA mailing list >> > WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> David Richfield >> [[:en:User:Slashme]] >> +27718539985 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikimediaZA mailing list >> WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza > > > > > -- > Douglas Ian Scott > 司道格 > Skype: douglas0scott > South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 872 > > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaZA mailing list > WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza >

-- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985

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David Richfield

11:29 a.m.

New subject: May 2013 African language Wikipedia update

Thanks, Ian, for a much-needed reminder of what our mission is about! On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Ian Gilfillan <wikimediaza(a)greenman.co.za> wrote:

...

Hi Here's the latest African language update: http://www.greenman.co.za/blog/?p=1108 -- Ian Gilfillan www.greenman.co.za _______________________________________________ WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza

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