Hi Lourie and Maarten
WikiAfrica is very keen to support a Wiki Loves Monuments in South Africa,
and indeed across Africa - we have been looking a this very subject (great
minds obviously think alike!). Perhaps we could all meet to try to
co-ordinate a campaign and draw attention to Wikipedia in the process??
When is good for any of you - perhaps when Maarten is back after the 6th?
Warmest
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> 1. Re: Pictures from Saturday's Xhosa Wiki Workshop (Heather Ford)
> 2. Fw: Pictures from Saturday's Xhosa Wiki Workshop
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> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:21:15 -0800
> From: Heather Ford <hfordsa(a)gmail.com>
> To: Kerryn McKay <kerryn(a)africancommons.org>
> Cc: WikimediaZA <wikimediaza(a)lists.wikimedia.org>rg>, MADe
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Pictures from Saturday's Xhosa Wiki
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> +1 yay! fab idea :)
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> On Feb 16, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Kerryn McKay wrote:
>
>> Hi Lourie
>>
>> Yep, I'm with you. I think this is a great project, and - as you mentioned
>> to me offline - really accessible for people to take part in and contribute.
>> Some cool ideas also around it - we could organise an upload party where we
>> could have a stall somewhere (at a university or shopping centre on a certain
>> day) where we could help people upload their pics there and then.
>>
>> I'm also happy to chat - maybe we could get together on skype even?
>>
>> Kerryn
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>> * * * *
>> Kerryn McKay
>> The African Commons Project
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>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Lourie Pieterse
<louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> Hello Maarten
>>
>> It is nice hearing from you again! It sounds to me like a wonderful idea, and
>> I am sure that there will be some South Africans who would like to
>> participate in this competition. What do the others from Wikimedia ZA think?
>> I would definitely be interested to meet up with you and discuss the
>> possibilities. When are you again in the Cape Town area?
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Lourie
>>
>> From: MADe <MADe(a)wikipedia.be>
>> To: wikimediaza(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 9:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Pictures from Saturday's Xhosa Wiki Workshop
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Very nice to see all the activities on the smaller South African language
>> wikis! Hopefully this means a start for those projects. I have another idea
>> to get some more things happening.
>>
>> In Belgium I started the "Wiki Loves Monuments" competition. The goal
for the
>> participants was to take a picture of a heritage site and to post them on
>> Wikicommons. The best images were selected and they could win a variety of
>> prices (Belgium: iPad). It was part of a bigger European contest (18
>> countries). The goal was to attract new contributors to the wiki projects,
>> and for Belgium to gather some wikipedians to start our own Belgian wiki
>> chapter.
>>
>> The competition itself was fairly simple to organise. The European organisers
>> provided tools, a website, logos, a dedicated Wiki Commons upload tool, ...
>> and also funding (10,000 ZAR). We made the translations (Belgium alone: five
>> languages), we searched for our own jury, we searched for Belgian prices, and
>> we got into contact with government organisations that helped us with a venue
>> for the price ceremony and some more practical things.
>>
>> The result was fantastic. 170.000 new images in Europe, of which 6000 in
>> Belgium. Lots or media attention for the competition. At least 50 (!) new
>> Belgian members that started working on Wikicommons or Wikipedia itself. A
>> solid group of people that wanted to work on our own chapter. We established
>> good contacts with government organisations that suddenly understood
>> Wikipedia is not a black box but made by real people. Nice media coverage on
>> the competition.
>>
>> The European competition will be organised in September of this year. They
>> would really enjoy SA to join in, and I'm sure WMF can help us with most of
>> the funding. I think this is an easy way to get the attention of new people,
>> especially from poorer regions (if we provide the necessary translations).
>>
>> Who is interested to get more information, or to help with the organisation?
>> We can meet in Cape Town, Durban or Johannesburg (I'm almost everywhere for
>> my current job<338.gif>)
>>
>>
>> Grtz,
>> Maarten
>>
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>> 2012/2/14 Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Ian is absolutely right. Although the workshops them selves tend to create a
>> number of articles creating a community of dedicated editors for Xhosa
>> language Wikipedia will be a very big challenge that I think will take a long
>> time. On the up side people are very eager and interested but on the down
>> side, as Ian has mentioned, there are still problems with basic computer
>> literacy and access to computers/internet. I suspect that it will take a
>> number of workshops followed by some sort of program such as one (and this is
>> only an idea right now) whereby teachers use Xhosa Wikipedia to test their
>> students translating abilities thereby creating a self perpetuating process
>> that continually exposes new people to editing that wiki.
>>
>> As I mentioned to Ian on Saturday I think that a big part of creating a
>> healthy community of editors on Wikipedia is finding enough people with the
>> right type of personality that is at home using a computer. I think that is
>> as much a numbers game as anything else which means spending a long time
>> exposing as many people as possible to the idea and process of editing
>> Wikipedia. A process that is made harder by relatively low rates of computer
>> literacy. But then again we must start from some where I suppose. Either
>> way, more work and support is needed and so long as I have free time and am
>> in Cape Town I am happy help.
>>
>> P.S. Thanks for checking the stats Ian. To be frank I am delighted that one
>> extra substantial edit was made since the workshop on Saturday. That in its
>> self is a 0.7% increase! :-D
>>
>>
>> On 14 February 2012 00:02, Heather Ford <hfordsa(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thank you so much, Ian. Appreciate it.
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Ian Gilfillan wrote:
>>
>>>> Great :) I'd be really interested to know whether people continued to
edit
>>>> after the workshop if you could share.
>>> To try answer Heather, the article count went from 125, which it has been
>>> stuck at since at least November 2011, to 131 during the class, and there
>>> has only been one substantial edit from any of the participants on the
>>> weekend (a new article, increasing the count to 132) since the workshop, so
>>> the answer seems to be no.
>>>
>>> The workshop was 2 hours, and, briefly, we hoped to teach creating a user
>>> account, creating or editing (via translation from English) an article,
>>> adding links, adding a picture, and I wanted to add interwiki links to the
>>> list as well. Everyone created or edited an article, and most, if not
>>> everyone, added links, though only some could create a user account due to
>>> IP limits, and very few got to adding an image or interwiki links. Douglas
>>> goes into more details in his post.
>>>
>>> It's more complicated to add links in Xhosa than in English due to the
way
>>> prefixes are used in the language, so quite often an article may exist, but
>>> the link doesn't point to it, and there are already duplicate articles
for
>>> this reason.
>>>
>>> There is still such a barrier with basic computer use, that I found a
>>> substantial portion of the class was showing people how to maximize and
>>> minimize windows, how to open a new tab or window, etc, and I got the sense
>>> that there wasn't always a real understanding of why the various steps
were
>>> being performed, which reduces the chances of them being repeatable outside
>>> of the class.
>>>
>>> The one article that was created afterwards is an orphan, with no incoming
>>> or outgoing links.
>>>
>>> There was a lot of enthusiasm, so hopefully having a followup quite soon
>>> will keep the interest and momentum going, but I would expect there to be
>>> not much sustained activity as a result of the workshop alone.
>>>
>>> --
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