Thanks, Gerard. So the deadline is? I know Wikimania was beginning of August, but I've only really started getting the word out so if you could give us end of Sept that would be great.

I've been chatting to people and just started a Facebook page to help people out https://www.facebook.com/groups/169267553148356/

We'll see :)

On Aug 30, 2011, at 2:27 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:

Hoi, The current situation is as follows: We have promised not to continue the closure procedure for a month. This was agreed at Wikimania. When the month is over and there has been no editing activity or localisation activity, a closure procedure will start that takes some two months. When there is no editing or localisation activity the content of the Sotho Wikipedia will be moved to the Incubator awaiting editing and localisation activity.

In order to get out of the Incubator, a project has to comply with the requirements of a new project. This includes activity by multiple people over a couple of months. It also includes a minumum number of articles and a minimal localisation of the user interface.

The requirements are designed to give a project a good chance to grow and prosper. As you can read in my reply, what we are looking for is people caring for their language, caring for their Wikipedia. Thanks, GerardM

2011/8/30 Achal Prabhala aprabhala@gmail.com Dear Gerard,

Can this be true? Doesn't sound to me like it is. (Or at least I didn't know that LangCom even had a 'delete' policy). Would like to know more if possible.

Thanks, Achal

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What happens if it's deleted and we later get interest? Can we "undelete"?

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And by the way, to be clear, "closure" does not mean complete deletion but instead moving to the Incubator (incubator.wikimedia.org) where anyone would still be able to contribute to it.

2011/8/31 Robin Pepermans robinp.1273@gmail.com:

Hi,

There is no deadline. The wiki closure proposal was closed because of a new policy that was implemented (which gives us, the language committee, control over closing wikis). Anyone can re-submit a proposal. But as long as you are actively looking for contributors, the Wikipedia will not be closed.

Regards, Robin

2011/8/31 Heather Ford hfordsa@gmail.com:

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Thanks, Gerard. So the deadline is? I know Wikimania was beginning of August, but I've only really started getting the word out so if you could give us end of Sept that would be great. I've been chatting to people and just started a Facebook page to help people out https://www.facebook.com/groups/169267553148356/ We'll see :) On Aug 30, 2011, at 2:27 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:

Hoi, The current situation is as follows: We have promised not to continue the closure procedure for a month. This was agreed at Wikimania. When the month is over and there has been no editing activity or localisation activity, a closure procedure will start  that takes some two months. When there is no editing or localisation activity the content of the Sotho Wikipedia will be moved to the Incubator awaiting editing and localisation activity.

In order to get out of the Incubator, a project has to comply with the requirements of a new project. This includes activity by multiple people over a couple of months. It also includes a minumum number of articles and a minimal localisation of the user interface.

The requirements are designed to give a project a good chance to grow and prosper. As you can read in my reply, what we are looking for is people caring for their language, caring for their Wikipedia. Thanks,         GerardM

2011/8/30 Achal Prabhala aprabhala@gmail.com

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Dear Gerard,

Can this be true? Doesn't sound to me like it is. (Or at least I didn't know that LangCom even had a 'delete' policy). Would like to know more if possible.

Thanks, Achal

-------- Original Message -------- Subject:        Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Fwd: Sotho Date:   Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:50:27 +0200 From:   David Richfield davidrichfield@gmail.com To:     Kerryn McKay kerryn@africancommons.org CC:     wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org, Heather Ford hford@ushahidi.com

What happens if it's deleted and we later get interest?  Can we "undelete"?

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Good thinking! Also, the article doesn't mention the fact that the Wikipedia article has since been fixed and protected.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Ian Gilfillan wikimediaza@greenman.co.za wrote:

Wikipedia made the front page of IOL today, thanks to persistent vandalism of the ANC article in protest at the secrecy bill: http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/anc-lashes-out-at-wikipedia-censorship-1....

It may be a good time to contact them about doing an article with a more positive angle, such as about the Northern Sotho and Afrikaans milestones. I'll get in touch.

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