Hello Isla
I met up with Maarten last Saturday and we are very excited about this idea! It would be
great if you could maybe meet up with us sometime. Maarten proposed times on this Dooble:
If those times does not suit you, or you can think of better times, feel free to mail us.
Kind regards
Lourie
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From: Isla Haddow-Flood <islahf(a)africacentre.net>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] WikimediaZA Digest, Vol 19, Issue 14
Hi Lourie and Maarten
WikiAfrica is very keen to support a Wiki Loves Monuments in South Africa,
and indeed across Africa - we have been looking a this very subject (great
minds obviously think alike!). Perhaps we could all meet to try to
co-ordinate a campaign and draw attention to Wikipedia in the process??
When is good for any of you - perhaps when Maarten is back after the 6th?
Warmest
Isla
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> 1. Re: Pictures from Saturday's Xhosa Wiki Workshop (Heather Ford)
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> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 12:21:15 -0800
> From: Heather Ford <hfordsa(a)gmail.com>
> To: Kerryn McKay <kerryn(a)africancommons.org>
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> +1 yay! fab idea :)
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> On Feb 16, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Kerryn McKay wrote:
>
>> Hi Lourie
>>
>> Yep, I'm with you. I think this is a great project, and - as you mentioned
>> to me offline - really accessible for people to take part in and contribute.
>> Some cool ideas also around it - we could organise an upload party where we
>> could have a stall somewhere (at a university or shopping centre on a certain
>> day) where we could help people upload their pics there and then.
>>
>> I'm also happy to chat - maybe we could get together on skype even?
>>
>> Kerryn
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> * * * *
>> Kerryn McKay
>> The African Commons Project
>>
>> 082 334 6165
>> skype: kerrynmac
>> twitter: kerrynmckay
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>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Lourie Pieterse
<louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> Hello Maarten
>>
>> It is nice hearing from you again! It sounds to me like a wonderful idea, and
>> I am sure that there will be some South Africans who would like to
>> participate in this competition. What do the others from Wikimedia ZA think?
>> I would definitely be interested to meet up with you and discuss the
>> possibilities. When are you again in the Cape Town area?
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Lourie
>>
>> From: MADe <MADe(a)wikipedia.be>
>> To: wikimediaza(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 9:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Pictures from Saturday's Xhosa Wiki Workshop
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Very nice to see all the activities on the smaller South African language
>> wikis! Hopefully this means a start for those projects. I have another idea
>> to get some more things happening.
>>
>> In Belgium I started the "Wiki Loves Monuments" competition. The goal
for the
>> participants was to take a picture of a heritage site and to post them on
>> Wikicommons. The best images were selected and they could win a variety of
>> prices (Belgium: iPad). It was part of a bigger European contest (18
>> countries). The goal was to attract new contributors to the wiki projects,
>> and for Belgium to gather some wikipedians to start our own Belgian wiki
>> chapter.
>>
>> The competition itself was fairly simple to organise. The European organisers
>> provided tools, a website, logos, a dedicated Wiki Commons upload tool, ...
>> and also funding (10,000 ZAR). We made the translations (Belgium alone: five
>> languages), we searched for our own jury, we searched for Belgian prices, and
>> we got into contact with government organisations that helped us with a venue
>> for the price ceremony and some more practical things.
>>
>> The result was fantastic. 170.000 new images in Europe, of which 6000 in
>> Belgium. Lots or media attention for the competition. At least 50 (!) new
>> Belgian members that started working on Wikicommons or Wikipedia itself. A
>> solid group of people that wanted to work on our own chapter. We established
>> good contacts with government organisations that suddenly understood
>> Wikipedia is not a black box but made by real people. Nice media coverage on
>> the competition.
>>
>> The European competition will be organised in September of this year. They
>> would really enjoy SA to join in, and I'm sure WMF can help us with most of
>> the funding. I think this is an easy way to get the attention of new people,
>> especially from poorer regions (if we provide the necessary translations).
>>
>> Who is interested to get more information, or to help with the organisation?
>> We can meet in Cape Town, Durban or Johannesburg (I'm almost everywhere for
>> my current job<338.gif>)
>>
>>
>> Grtz,
>> Maarten
>>
>> BE: +32 475 21 38 35
>> ZA: +27 71 491 31 38
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>> 2012/2/14 Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Ian is absolutely right. Although the workshops them selves tend to create a
>> number of articles creating a community of dedicated editors for Xhosa
>> language Wikipedia will be a very big challenge that I think will take a long
>> time. On the up side people are very eager and interested but on the down
>> side, as Ian has mentioned, there are still problems with basic computer
>> literacy and access to computers/internet. I suspect that it will take a
>> number of workshops followed by some sort of program such as one (and this is
>> only an idea right now) whereby teachers use Xhosa Wikipedia to test their
>> students translating abilities thereby creating a self perpetuating process
>> that continually exposes new people to editing that wiki.
>>
>> As I mentioned to Ian on Saturday I think that a big part of creating a
>> healthy community of editors on Wikipedia is finding enough people with the
>> right type of personality that is at home using a computer. I think that is
>> as much a numbers game as anything else which means spending a long time
>> exposing as many people as possible to the idea and process of editing
>> Wikipedia. A process that is made harder by relatively low rates of computer
>> literacy. But then again we must start from some where I suppose. Either
>> way, more work and support is needed and so long as I have free time and am
>> in Cape Town I am happy help.
>>
>> P.S. Thanks for checking the stats Ian. To be frank I am delighted that one
>> extra substantial edit was made since the workshop on Saturday. That in its
>> self is a 0.7% increase! :-D
>>
>>
>> On 14 February 2012 00:02, Heather Ford <hfordsa(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thank you so much, Ian. Appreciate it.
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Ian Gilfillan wrote:
>>
>>>> Great :) I'd be really interested to know whether people continued to
edit
>>>> after the workshop if you could share.
>>> To try answer Heather, the article count went from 125, which it has been
>>> stuck at since at least November 2011, to 131 during the class, and there
>>> has only been one substantial edit from any of the participants on the
>>> weekend (a new article, increasing the count to 132) since the workshop, so
>>> the answer seems to be no.
>>>
>>> The workshop was 2 hours, and, briefly, we hoped to teach creating a user
>>> account, creating or editing (via translation from English) an article,
>>> adding links, adding a picture, and I wanted to add interwiki links to the
>>> list as well. Everyone created or edited an article, and most, if not
>>> everyone, added links, though only some could create a user account due to
>>> IP limits, and very few got to adding an image or interwiki links. Douglas
>>> goes into more details in his post.
>>>
>>> It's more complicated to add links in Xhosa than in English due to the
way
>>> prefixes are used in the language, so quite often an article may exist, but
>>> the link doesn't point to it, and there are already duplicate articles
for
>>> this reason.
>>>
>>> There is still such a barrier with basic computer use, that I found a
>>> substantial portion of the class was showing people how to maximize and
>>> minimize windows, how to open a new tab or window, etc, and I got the sense
>>> that there wasn't always a real understanding of why the various steps
were
>>> being performed, which reduces the chances of them being repeatable outside
>>> of the class.
>>>
>>> The one article that was created afterwards is an orphan, with no incoming
>>> or outgoing links.
>>>
>>> There was a lot of enthusiasm, so hopefully having a followup quite soon
>>> will keep the interest and momentum going, but I would expect there to be
>>> not much sustained activity as a result of the workshop alone.
>>>
>>> --
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