Hi Deon
Yes, it is most certainly an indigenous language, since it originated locally. Yes, it has
family ties with Dutch and English, but also with Khoi, and other African languages.
At several occasion, various ministers of education (and other ministers) have included
Afrikaans as an indigenous language. But of course, it depends on what the political
motivation is. One can safely assume that this view is not shared with everyone ...
Yours,
Gerhard
Vanaf: Deon Steyn
Gestuur: Monday, 11 June 2018 18:20
Aan: wikimediaza(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Onderwerp: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Status report: Non-ZA Wikipedian improving the ZUWP and XH
WP
Guys
One question I have to ask: is Afrikaans an indigenous language?
Regards
Deon
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From: WikimediaZA [mailto:wikimediaza-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Reuben
Honigwachs
Sent: 09 June 2018 15:04
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Status report: Non-ZA Wikipedian improving the ZU WP and XH
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I support Deborah's notion of coordinating efforts to strengthen indigenous languages.
Collaboratively and largely in public. Best also to formulate a solid strategy and
concrete actions.
We should only specify where exactly and how this discussion is going to take place: Meta
[1 <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_South_Africa>]
or chapter wiki [2 <http://wikimedia.org.za/wiki/Main_Page>]. BTW, the chapter wiki
is in the process of being migrated to WMF [3
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195926>] and will support unified login (single
user login).
[1]
Best, Reuben
On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 at 13:59, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Deborah, thanks for contacting us. I will send you
a private
message cc'ing in some key people so as not to spam people on this mailing list.
Regards,
Douglas.
On 2 June 2018 at 13:26, Deborah S. Jacobs <orchata(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Dear members of Wikimedia ZA,
Living outside South Africa, I was unable to attend either of the
recent Capacity-Building workshops (meet-ups) with Asaf Bartov. Now
it's June
and
Wikimedia 2018 is fast approaching - so I'm
writing to you all via
the mailing list in hopes of forging a bond of inclusion with
Wikimedia ZA,
at
least to apprise you of my activities.
For over ten months I've contributed daily to the Zulu Wikipedia,
also
for
the past two months in the Xhosa WP. Neither WP
has an
administrator, and their few veteran or new editors are active only
occasionally. My own language resources are sparse and I haven't
succeeded in developing contacts who can evaluate my provisional
translations. (I work prudently with Google Translate and avoid
creating wrongly named pages and
especially
categories.)
Nonetheless I've made constant progress based on the Special pages:
resolving red links, categorizing, linking with Wikidata, adding bio
data, identifying duplicate pages, clearing inappropriate content,
etc. I do create stub-quality pages, mainly biographical based on
WIkidata and the EN WP.
Even if other Wikipedians aren't available for consultation, the
process
of
building these small WPs would benefit from South
Africans' input.
I'd
like
to participate in discussions of developing
Afrocentric content and
avoiding cultural bias - e.g., the current eurocentric "Vital articles"
and "Vital 100" have already generated dozens of stubs and hundreds
of
red
links, while many valid topics in the
subcategories of
:en:Category:South Africa are largely absent.
Ideally these discussions will take place within WP on Talk pages,
and
not
in listserved or private emails or on Facebook
(useful as those
channels are). And board members: I encourage the Wikimedia ZA page
on meta be
kept
up, particularly as an archive documenting
chapter events, and
please
have
someone regularly review activity on the Talk
page there. (Two of my
posts
await reply...)
I'll send this now, with thanks for your having read thus far :- )
I welcome your responses and am looking forward to our future
collaborations and efforts to improve the Wikipedia projects.
Sincerely,
Deborah (User:Deborahjay)
orchata(a)gmail.com
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