Hi Deon
Yes, it is most certainly an indigenous language, since it originated locally. Yes, it has family ties with Dutch and English, but also with Khoi, and other African languages.
At several occasion, various ministers of education (and other ministers) have included Afrikaans as an indigenous language. But of course, it depends on what the political motivation is. One can safely assume that this view is not shared with everyone ...
Yours, Gerhard
Vanaf: Deon Steyn Gestuur: Monday, 11 June 2018 18:20 Aan: wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org Onderwerp: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Status report: Non-ZA Wikipedian improving the ZUWP and XH WP
Guys
One question I have to ask: is Afrikaans an indigenous language?
Regards
Deon
-----Original Message----- From: WikimediaZA [mailto:wikimediaza-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Reuben Honigwachs Sent: 09 June 2018 15:04 To: wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Status report: Non-ZA Wikipedian improving the ZU WP and XH WP
I support Deborah's notion of coordinating efforts to strengthen indigenous languages. Collaboratively and largely in public. Best also to formulate a solid strategy and concrete actions.
We should only specify where exactly and how this discussion is going to take place: Meta [1 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_South_Africa] or chapter wiki [2 http://wikimedia.org.za/wiki/Main_Page]. BTW, the chapter wiki is in the process of being migrated to WMF [3 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195926] and will support unified login (single user login).
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_South_Africa [2] http://wikimedia.org.za/wiki/Main_Page [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195926
Best, Reuben
On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 at 13:59, Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Deborah, thanks for contacting us. I will send you a private message cc'ing in some key people so as not to spam people on this mailing list.
Regards,
Douglas.
On 2 June 2018 at 13:26, Deborah S. Jacobs orchata@gmail.com wrote:
Dear members of Wikimedia ZA,
Living outside South Africa, I was unable to attend either of the recent Capacity-Building workshops (meet-ups) with Asaf Bartov. Now it's June
and
Wikimedia 2018 is fast approaching - so I'm writing to you all via the mailing list in hopes of forging a bond of inclusion with Wikimedia ZA,
at
least to apprise you of my activities.
For over ten months I've contributed daily to the Zulu Wikipedia, also
for
the past two months in the Xhosa WP. Neither WP has an administrator, and their few veteran or new editors are active only occasionally. My own language resources are sparse and I haven't succeeded in developing contacts who can evaluate my provisional translations. (I work prudently with Google Translate and avoid creating wrongly named pages and
especially
categories.)
Nonetheless I've made constant progress based on the Special pages: resolving red links, categorizing, linking with Wikidata, adding bio data, identifying duplicate pages, clearing inappropriate content, etc. I do create stub-quality pages, mainly biographical based on WIkidata and the EN WP.
Even if other Wikipedians aren't available for consultation, the process
of
building these small WPs would benefit from South Africans' input. I'd
like
to participate in discussions of developing Afrocentric content and avoiding cultural bias - e.g., the current eurocentric "Vital articles" and "Vital 100" have already generated dozens of stubs and hundreds of
red
links, while many valid topics in the subcategories of :en:Category:South Africa are largely absent.
Ideally these discussions will take place within WP on Talk pages, and
not
in listserved or private emails or on Facebook (useful as those channels are). And board members: I encourage the Wikimedia ZA page on meta be
kept
up, particularly as an archive documenting chapter events, and please
have
someone regularly review activity on the Talk page there. (Two of my
posts
await reply...)
I'll send this now, with thanks for your having read thus far :- ) I welcome your responses and am looking forward to our future collaborations and efforts to improve the Wikipedia projects.
Sincerely, Deborah (User:Deborahjay) orchata@gmail.com _______________________________________________ WikimediaZA mailing list WikimediaZA@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza To unsubscribe, send an email to WikimediaZA-unsubscribe@lists. wikimedia.org
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