in interesting discusison. i collected some links:
[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_panorama
[2]
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32001L0029:EN:H…
[3]
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panoramafreiheit#.C3.96sterreich
[4]
http://www1.unisg.ch/www/edis.nsf/SysLkpByIdentifier/3498/$FILE/dis3498.pdf
[5]
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/REPORT_ON_THE_FREEDOM_O…
[6]
https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classified-compilation/19920251/index.html
after reading these i think criteria are not bad, as in [5]. first,
they compare types: building, 2-dimensional, 3-dimensional, text.
switzerland e.g. uses "works", which includes everyting.
second, they compare the space where it is located. public space
("öffentlich zugänglich" in german), also interior. and third, they
compare usage: commercial use allowed or not. i did not see anything
related to the discussion i heard in switzerland about works presented
on a public space for a restricted time, an works visible from public
space, discussed also in [4]. the swiss law itself is here, in
different languages, english included [6]. (only) disadvantage of
swiss law seems to be that interior is not good (enough) specified -
there are quite some discussions.
the map attached to [1] suggests one should choose UK, Austria, India
or Australia as example. [2] explains the EU directive and states that
austria law is close to it. [5] rates UK quite bad, as well austria is
less good for the same reason: specify the works and therefor not
including some of the types of work. not sure if Australia does the
same (including liam in the mail thread as australian). spain not so
good as interior is not included. netherlands is rated best unless i
am not misreading it.
best,
rupert
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Looping in Dimi, who's been working on this at the
EU level. Dimi can no
doubt advise on the text of a proposed amendment.
A.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello everyone,
As many of you no doubt know the Copy Right Act 1978 section 15 (3)
<
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#South_Africa
has been a bone of some contention for the
South Africa Wikipedia community
for a long time now as it has effectively meant that we here in South
Africa are denied Freedom of Panorama
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama>.
Last week I was fortunate enough to have attended an event organised by Dr
Tobias Schonwetter from UCT (and from Creative Commons South Africa) to
discuss a suggested redrafting of the act. I am happy to say that I feel I
was able to make a good case to the relevant authorities from the
Department of Trade and Industry as well as others present for the need to
revise the act to allow for Freedom of Panorama. I feel they were very
sympathetic to our concerns about the need and desirability of Freedom of
Panorama in South Africa.
Now comes the hard part. We need to work on a suggested revision of
Section 15 (3) (or Section 15 generally) to allow for Freedom of Panorama
and we need to do it quickly as the deadline for submissions to change the
act is the 27th of August 2015.
My suggestion is to use the Spanish or German Freedom of Panorama acts as
guidelines for us which basically state that people are free to take
pictures or otherwise reproduce works that are permanently found outside on
public ways, streets or places (e.g. squares, plazas) and to distribute and
publicly communicate such copies.
Or as the Spanish act says: "Works permanently located in parks, streets,
squares or other public places may be freely reproduced, distributed and
communicated by means of paintings, drawings, photographs and audiovisual
processes." and goes on to state that this "may not be so interpreted that
they could be applied in a manner capable of unreasonably prejudicing the
legitimate interests of the author or adversely affecting the normal
exploitation of the works to which they refer."
I want to notify the community of this opportunity for us to amended the
act as well as the progress the Chapter (Wikimedia South Africa) has made
in possibly getting Freedom of Panorama established in South Africa.
I also wanted to let you know that should you have any comments of your own
on the amendment of the Copy Right act of 1978 then please have a look at
the link here
<
http://saha.org.za/news/2015/August/call_for_comment_copyright_amendment_bi…
for more information as well as the
contact details of the contact person
at the DTI.
Thanks and best regards,
Douglas.
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