Sweden doesn't have multiple chapters -- there's only Wikimedia Sverige. The only other country that *does* have multiple chapters is China, which has Wikimedia Hong Kong and Wikimedia Macau -- and both of those chapters have independent votes.

As far as whether we "deserve" more votes, that's a subjective question. I will point out that, once every country gets a chapter, Europe (with a population of ~700 million) will have 50 votes -- while, under your proposal, the United States (with a population of ~300 million) will have 1. Personally, I don't think that's particularly fair either.

Cheers,

Kirill

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On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Mr. Gregory Varnum <gregory.varnum@gmail.com> wrote:

I've heard this repeatedly from other chapters and from ChapCom members - I'm not sure tiny minority is a fair assessment.

Also, I'm at a loss for why the US should be permitted multiple votes when other nations with multiple chapters, such as Swedan, only have one vote. Please explain why we deserve more than what our fellow nations are receiving.

-Greg

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On Jul 14, 2012, at 11:54 PM, Kirill Lokshin <kirill.lokshin@wikimediadc.org> wrote:

The idea that all US chapters would have only a single voice in movement-wide discussions. This hasn't been demanded except by tiny minority among other chapters -- and certainly not by anyone who will actually be involved in recognizing future US chapters.

As far as I'm concerned, that element makes this proposal a total non-starter.

Cheers,
Kirill

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On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Mr. Gregory Varnum <gregory.varnum@gmail.com> wrote:

Which political concessions are you referring to?

-Greg

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On Jul 14, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Kirill Lokshin <kirill.lokshin@wikimediadc.org> wrote:

It's entirely unclear to me why we're proposing to make such dramatic political concessions, particularly given the lack of any meaningful external pressure to do so.

Cheers,
Kirill

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On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Kevin Rutherford <Ktr101@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hey Everyone,

I hope that you have all been doing well and those who attended Wikimania have not been partying too hard after the awesome experiences of the last few days. I wanted to let you all know, that per a WALRUS meet-up discussion tonight, myself and two other users have drafted up a plan on the evolution and governance of future Wikimedia chapters: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal_for_the_evolution_of_Wikimedia_chapters_in_the_United_States

We look forward to your opinion on it, and I hope that those who are in the D.C. region have safe trips back, over the next few days.

Sincerely,

Kevin Rutherford

Ktr101

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