Commons image request help - Wikimediauk-l

Richard Nevell

23 Feb 23 Feb

5:42 p.m.

There are some example letters on Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Example_requests_for_permission> which do a good job of explaining the implications of a CC-BY-SA licence but from a quick read they don't seem to make a good case for why people should donate image. Richard On 23 February 2016 at 16:29, Katherine Bavage <katherine.bavage(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi all, Sorry if this is something I really ought to know :/ Is there a standard form of words - either from OTRS wiki or that you have used - that is helpful when you are contacting organisations or individuals to ask for image donations? Context: I would like to contact artists to ask if they have image shots they would be prepared to donate to commons to support creation of articles about them. Problem: I need to be able to say a) What the benefit of donating the image is to them and to us b) what the consequences of CC-BY-SA donation are in terms of that images use for a non expert. Also it would help if anyone can share the easiest process for managing uploading when you don't hold the copyright but the image donor does (but they are a non-expert/non editor) Thank you! Kat _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

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Richard Symonds

6:37 p.m.

Depends - if you're approaching an individual, I've always had more success pushing the "donate your images for the good of everyone" line - which you'll be good at because you're a fundraiser - you probably have better ideas than me! If it's an institution it's more complex. John Cummings is a good person to talk to about it. The OTRS permission email can be a stumbling block because OTRS demand a specific wording and due to the volume of emails they get they can seem a bit unhelpful at times (they're so busy, it's understandable) Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 23 February 2016 at 17:14, Katherine Bavage <katherine.bavage(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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That's perfect thanks Yes any ideas on how you've had success getting people to see the benefits to them would be good, and defo some advice on uploading process (I assume it's going to be a case of forwarding their email giving permission to OTRS?) On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 at 16:43 Richard Nevell < richard.nevell(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

There are some example letters on Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Example_requests_for_permission> which do a good job of explaining the implications of a CC-BY-SA licence but from a quick read they don't seem to make a good case for why people should donate image. Richard On 23 February 2016 at 16:29, Katherine Bavage < katherine.bavage(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all, Sorry if this is something I really ought to know :/ Is there a standard form of words - either from OTRS wiki or that you have used - that is helpful when you are contacting organisations or individuals to ask for image donations? Context: I would like to contact artists to ask if they have image shots they would be prepared to donate to commons to support creation of articles about them. Problem: I need to be able to say a) What the benefit of donating the image is to them and to us b) what the consequences of CC-BY-SA donation are in terms of that images use for a non expert. Also it would help if anyone can share the easiest process for managing uploading when you don't hold the copyright but the image donor does (but they are a non-expert/non editor) Thank you! Kat _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

-- Richard Nevell Project Coordinator Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0921 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

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Sara Thomas

24 Feb 24 Feb

12:12 p.m.

Hi there! I don't have standard wording but I have talked to a *lot* of museums this year... Happy to help if possible! Sarat(a)museumsgalleriesscotland.org.uk Sara Thomas Wikimedian in Residence Museums Galleries Scotland User:lirazelf Sent from my iPhone

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On 23 Feb 2016, at 16:30, Katherine Bavage <katherine.bavage(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi all, Sorry if this is something I really ought to know :/ Is there a standard form of words - either from OTRS wiki or that you have used - that is helpful when you are contacting organisations or individuals to ask for image donations? Context: I would like to contact artists to ask if they have image shots they would be prepared to donate to commons to support creation of articles about them. Problem: I need to be able to say a) What the benefit of donating the image is to them and to us b) what the consequences of CC-BY-SA donation are in terms of that images use for a non expert. Also it would help if anyone can share the easiest process for managing uploading when you don't hold the copyright but the image donor does (but they are a non-expert/non editor) Thank you! Kat _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

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