Hi Dimitar
There is no need to turn FKAGEU into an incorporated entity in order to register on the EU's Transparency Register. The EU site specifically says that:
Networks, platforms or other forms of collective activity without a legal status or legal personality but which constitute de facto a source of organised influence, and engaged in activities falling within the scope of the register are expected to register. In such case its members should identify one of their number as its responsible contact person for their relations with the administration of the register.
http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/info/your-organisation/whoRegister....
It's not very clear what that means, but presumably something more than a loose collection of interested individuals, as reference is made to "members", and the form that needs to be filled in refers to "organisations".
Michael
On 27 Jan 2014, at 10:28, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov wrote:
HI Michael,
2014-01-27 Michael Maggs Michael@maggs.name It’s not clear to me what will be done with the answers proposed so far at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/European_Commission_copyright_consultation
Will they be submitted as they are, or is someone proposing to merge them into a single version (even though many answers have been signed)?
Also unclear unless I have missed something is who will the answers be submitted by, and on whose behalf? Only individuals - and not the Foundation nor chapters - have formally posted answers so far, so is the intention that the answers will be submitted by and on behalf of those individuals only?
We will try our best to merge the many different answers into a coherent set. If this works, the WMF,chapters and individuals will be free to decide whether they wish to submit these answers in their own name.
If the intention is that a formal response will be submitted on behalf of the unincorporated group Free Knowledge Advocacy Group EU, then it would be sensible for that group to register with the EU Transparency Register, here:
Inded,the intention for this was to have a more formal response (and sfety net, as we couldn't have been sure how well the experiment on Meta-Wiki will work). In this case again, each chapter and individual is free to use the answering set. As far as the Transparency register is concerned, we cannot list the Free Knowledge Advocacy Group EU, since it is not a legal entity. We do, however, have three chapters that are on this register - WMDE, WMIT and WMMK. It is up to each and every chapter to do this step. Alternatively we can talk about actually founding the FKAGEU, but that is a conversation that need to be led in a differnt setting.
Dimi
From: Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com Date: 21 January 2014 14:51 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] European Commission Copyright Consultation To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Hi everyone,
Just a quick reminder that we have 6 more days to collaboratively draft answers to the European Commission's copyright consultation.
The idea is to give the global, online community a chance to come up with answers that, if coherent enough, can then be officially given to the Commission.
We see this as a social experiment, since no one until now has ever attempted to answer collaboratively and publicly such short-termed and in-depth consultations.
The corresponding link is:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/European_Commission_copyright_consultation
Have fun answering!
Dimi _______________________________________________
Advocacy_Advisors mailing list Advocacy_Advisors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy_advisors
Advocacy_Advisors mailing list Advocacy_Advisors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy_advisors
Hello everyone,
I will be registering Wikimedia UK on the transparency register later on this week (tomorrow, I hope).
Dimi, shall I look at registering the FKAGEU while I'm at it? Given Michael's comment above it seems perfectly reasonable for the group to be registered.
Thanks and regards,
Stevie
On 27 January 2014 12:13, Michael Maggs Michael@maggs.name wrote:
Hi Dimitar
There is no need to turn FKAGEU into an incorporated entity in order to register on the EU's Transparency Register. The EU site specifically says that:
*Networks, platforms or other forms of collective activity without a legal status or legal personality but which constitute de facto a source of organised influence, and engaged in activities falling within the scope of the register are expected to register. In such case its members should identify one of their number as its responsible contact person for their relations with the administration of the register.*
http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/info/your-organisation/whoRegister....
It's not very clear what that means, but presumably something more than a loose collection of interested individuals, as reference is made to "members", and the form that needs to be filled in refers to "organisations".
Michael
On 27 Jan 2014, at 10:28, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov wrote:
HI Michael,
2014-01-27 Michael Maggs Michael@maggs.name
It’s not clear to me what will be done with the answers proposed so far at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/European_Commission_copyright_consultation
Will they be submitted as they are, or is someone proposing to merge them into a single version (even though many answers have been signed)?
Also unclear unless I have missed something is who will the answers be submitted by, and on whose behalf? Only individuals - and not the Foundation nor chapters - have formally posted answers so far, so is the intention that the answers will be submitted by and on behalf of those individuals only?
We will try our best to merge the many different answers into a coherent set. If this works, the WMF,chapters and individuals will be free to decide whether they wish to submit these answers in their own name.
If the intention is that a formal response will be submitted on behalf of the unincorporated group *Free Knowledge Advocacy Group EU*, then it would be sensible for that group to register with the EU Transparency Register, here:
Inded,the intention for this was to have a more formal response (and sfety net, as we couldn't have been sure how well the experiment on Meta-Wiki will work). In this case again, each chapter and individual is free to use the answering set. As far as the Transparency register is concerned, we cannot list the Free Knowledge Advocacy Group EU, since it is not a legal entity. We do, however, have three chapters that are on this register - WMDE, WMIT and WMMK. It is up to each and every chapter to do this step. Alternatively we can talk about actually founding the FKAGEU, but that is a conversation that need to be led in a differnt setting.
Dimi
From: Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com Date: 21 January 2014 14:51 Subject: [Wikimedia-l] European Commission Copyright Consultation To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Hi everyone,
Just a quick reminder that we have 6 more days to collaboratively draft answers to the European Commission's copyright consultation.
The idea is to give the global, online community a chance to come up with answers that, if coherent enough, can then be officially given to the Commission.
We see this as a social experiment, since no one until now has ever attempted to answer collaboratively and publicly such short-termed and in-depth consultations.
The corresponding link is:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/European_Commission_copyright_consultation
Have fun answering!
Dimi _______________________________________________
Advocacy_Advisors mailing list Advocacy_Advisors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy_advisors
Advocacy_Advisors mailing list Advocacy_Advisors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy_advisors
Advocacy_Advisors mailing list Advocacy_Advisors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy_advisors
wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org