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24 Jun 2015 24 Jun '15

12:38 a.m.

For those interested in this proposed EU copyright change, and with access to the BBC IPlayer (it may only work in the UK), I suggest reviewing today's Daily Politics show.[1] The position of the Labour party MEP (Mary Honeyball) is to support new restrictions on Freedom of Panorama (she gives a good 2 minute explanation of why the proposed amendment is a great thing), while the UKIP Culture Spokesman (Peter Whittle) is set against. The arguments on both sides are reasoned but slightly confused, with some errors creeping in. However these sound-bite cases for both sides are worth thinking through if attempting to provide MEPs with lobbying comments or better case studies and briefing material.[2] I'm surprised to see a Labour politician arguing to damage the UK's current Freedom of Panorama, it feels like a future vote loser to me, especially in the light of the ever looming UK referendum on whether to stay in the EU.[3] Links 1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b060kp1r - go to 52 minutes into the programme, available on-line for a month from broadcast. 2. http://www.europarl.org.uk/en/your-meps.html - contact details for UK MEPs, Honeyball can be found under London. 3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887 Fae -- faewik(a)gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae

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Sarah Noble

24 Jun 24 Jun

12:47 a.m.

To be honest, Honeyball is wrong on a lot of stuff. Seems to be her defining trait. Sarah

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On 23 Jun 2015, at 23:38, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote: For those interested in this proposed EU copyright change, and with access to the BBC IPlayer (it may only work in the UK), I suggest reviewing today's Daily Politics show.[1] The position of the Labour party MEP (Mary Honeyball) is to support new restrictions on Freedom of Panorama (she gives a good 2 minute explanation of why the proposed amendment is a great thing), while the UKIP Culture Spokesman (Peter Whittle) is set against. The arguments on both sides are reasoned but slightly confused, with some errors creeping in. However these sound-bite cases for both sides are worth thinking through if attempting to provide MEPs with lobbying comments or better case studies and briefing material.[2] I'm surprised to see a Labour politician arguing to damage the UK's current Freedom of Panorama, it feels like a future vote loser to me, especially in the light of the ever looming UK referendum on whether to stay in the EU.[3] Links 1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b060kp1r - go to 52 minutes into the programme, available on-line for a month from broadcast. 2. http://www.europarl.org.uk/en/your-meps.html - contact details for UK MEPs, Honeyball can be found under London. 3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887 Fae -- faewik(a)gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

James Heald

1:04 a.m.

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See also UK media tracking page at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_Panorama_2015/uk A couple of *very* strong pieces in The Times tomorrow. -- James. On 23/06/2015 23:38, Fæ wrote:

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Sebastian Wallroth

10:10 a.m.

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Too bad I'm in Germany and cannot listen to the statements. It would be helpful to have a list of arguments of the Freedom of Panorama opponents, isn't it? --Sebastian Am 24.06.2015 00:38 schrieb Fæ:

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Deryck Chan

2:39 p.m.

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Hi team WMUK, I'm planning to write a letter to my MEP(s) about this. Has anyone written one already and can share it? Deryck On 23 June 2015 at 23:38, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Simon Knight

2:44 p.m.

Hi Deryck I wrote one on Sunday (before Honeyball had spoken on e.g. the BBC) http://sjgknight.com/finding-knowledge/2015/06/freedom-of-panorama-savefop/ It could definitely be improved but it might help as a start. Do let me know if any useful links especially re: the issues of ‘NC’ Best Simon From: wikimediauk-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Deryck Chan Sent: 24 June 2015 13:39 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK positions on the proposed harmonization of Freedom of Panorama in Europe Hi team WMUK, I'm planning to write a letter to my MEP(s) about this. Has anyone written one already and can share it? Deryck On 23 June 2015 at 23:38, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote: For those interested in this proposed EU copyright change, and with access to the BBC IPlayer (it may only work in the UK), I suggest reviewing today's Daily Politics show.[1] The position of the Labour party MEP (Mary Honeyball) is to support new restrictions on Freedom of Panorama (she gives a good 2 minute explanation of why the proposed amendment is a great thing), while the UKIP Culture Spokesman (Peter Whittle) is set against. The arguments on both sides are reasoned but slightly confused, with some errors creeping in. However these sound-bite cases for both sides are worth thinking through if attempting to provide MEPs with lobbying comments or better case studies and briefing material.[2] I'm surprised to see a Labour politician arguing to damage the UK's current Freedom of Panorama, it feels like a future vote loser to me, especially in the light of the ever looming UK referendum on whether to stay in the EU.[3] Links 1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b060kp1r - go to 52 minutes into the programme, available on-line for a month from broadcast. 2. http://www.europarl.org.uk/en/your-meps.html - contact details for UK MEPs, Honeyball can be found under London. 3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32810887 Fae -- faewik(a)gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

Richard Nevell

2:45 p.m.

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I think Stevie Benton is working on a letter to MEPs. As far as I know it's at a drafting stage. Richard On 24 June 2015 at 13:39, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi team WMUK, I'm planning to write a letter to my MEP(s) about this. Has anyone written one already and can share it? Deryck On 23 June 2015 at 23:38, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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David Gerard

9:15 p.m.

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Owen Blacker's blog post on Medium: https://medium.com/vantage/freedom-of-panorama-is-under-attack-6cc5353b4f65 The Times headline is *superlative*. If only the Times wasn't paywalled ... On 24 June 2015 at 13:45, Richard Nevell <richard.nevell(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

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I think Stevie Benton is working on a letter to MEPs. As far as I know it's at a drafting stage. Richard On 24 June 2015 at 13:39, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi team WMUK, I'm planning to write a letter to my MEP(s) about this. Has anyone written one already and can share it? Deryck On 23 June 2015 at 23:38, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:

_______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

-- Richard Nevell Assistant Office Manager Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0753 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

Owen Blacker

26 Jun 26 Jun

10:20 a.m.

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I completely missed this thread; sorry about that :) On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 at 20:16 David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I think Stevie Benton is working on a letter to MEPs. As far as I know

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at a drafting stage. Richard On 24 June 2015 at 13:39, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi team WMUK, > I'm planning to write a letter to my MEP(s) about this. Has anyone

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one already and can share it? Deryck On 23 June 2015 at 23:38, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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David Gerard
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Simon Knight