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Charles Matthews

4 Mar 2016 4 Mar '16

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Richard Symonds

4 Mar 4 Mar

4:16 p.m.

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This event is confirmed, and basic details are on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Cambridge_Images_Workshop_2016 More about the programme is on the way. The first session will start at entry level, but will be looking at Commons in the round as well as the usual introduction to uploading; there will be hands-on work. Charles _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

Katherine Bavage

9 Mar 9 Mar

5:03 p.m.

This looks fab - sorry I can't be there! Can you feedback how it goes/slides/what was useful because I led my first training session last weekend and I was already getting into image questions I couldn't answer and it would be good to have a few more introductory resources. Thanks! On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 at 15:17 Richard Symonds < richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

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WereSpielChequers

5:12 p.m.

Coming from the opposite end of the scale, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WereSpielChequers/image_adding is an exercise I've been building up and testing on newbies. It is based on some lists from Rich Farmbrough and some sessions that Fabian and I ran. WSC On 9 March 2016 at 16:03, Katherine Bavage <katherine.bavage(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Katherine Bavage

5:27 p.m.

That's excellent, and now in my watchlist BUT (but)...could we change the examples to something less...genocidey? Just a thought On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 at 16:12 WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Richard Symonds

5:32 p.m.

I think that word is "geocode", rather than genocide. But yes, if the word was genocide, then yes, that would be too genocidey. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 9 March 2016 at 16:27, Katherine Bavage <katherine.bavage(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Marvellous! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 4 March 2016 at 10:46, Charles Matthews < charles.r.matthews(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > This event is confirmed, and basic details are on > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Cambridge_Images_Workshop_2016 > > More about the programme is on the way. The first session will start > at entry level, but will be looking at Commons in the round as well as the > usual introduction to uploading; there will be hands-on work. > > Charles > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

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Gordon Joly

5:33 p.m.

On 09/03/16 16:32, Richard Symonds wrote:

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I think that word is "geocode", rather than genocide. But yes, if the word was genocide, then yes, that would be too genocidey.

Are you sure? Gordo

Katherine Bavage

5:36 p.m.

Typo! But, also, yes lets not train newbies to add images of genocide :/ Anyway, lets head off a debate about how much genocide is too much...thanks Jonathan, that's handy :) On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 at 16:34 Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote:

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On 09/03/16 16:32, Richard Symonds wrote:

I think that word is "geocode", rather than genocide. But yes, if the word was genocide, then yes, that would be too genocidey.

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Stuart Prior

5:40 p.m.

Katherine, Once you start downplaying the significance of genocide, it's a slippery slope... Just a thought S On 9 March 2016 at 16:36, Katherine Bavage <katherine.bavage(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 09/03/16 16:32, Richard Symonds wrote:

I think that word is "geocode", rather than genocide. But yes, if the word was genocide, then yes, that would be too genocidey.

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WereSpielChequers

5:50 p.m.

Geocodes, ah yes, probably guilty there. I read through the thing twice and clicked various links before deciding I was going to have to ask what the connection was between Kinlochleven.jpg and genocide. And yes I agree that the whole thing is a bit too Geocodey and dry - if anyone fancies improving it dont worry about it being in userspace. Oh and trust me, if you get a newbie who is nervous about changing an article, asking them to choose which picture to use and getting them to transform articles with pictures is very empowering. There's also pretty much zero risk of newbies getting edit conflicts or being bitten by patrollers. On 9 March 2016 at 16:36, Katherine Bavage <katherine.bavage(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 09/03/16 16:32, Richard Symonds wrote:

I think that word is "geocode", rather than genocide. But yes, if the word was genocide, then yes, that would be too genocidey.

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leutha＠fabiant.eu

8:21 p.m.

Geo code or Glen Co(d)e https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Glencoe which is just a beautiful walk away from Kinlochleven. It would probably make more sense to transclude the content so that we can have different resources for different occasions and different trainers. But perhaps it might be worth developing a tag so that people know where to find similar resources. I have started a page from which any such pages could usefully be linked: Wikipedia:WikiProject Teaching Resources/Image adding resources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Teaching_Resources/Imag… All the best Fabian aka Leutha

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On 09 March 2016 at 16:50 WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote: Geocodes, ah yes, probably guilty there. I read through the thing twice and clicked various links before deciding I was going to have to ask what the connection was between Kinlochleven.jpg and genocide. And yes I agree that the whole thing is a bit too Geocodey and dry - if anyone fancies improving it dont worry about it being in userspace. Oh and trust me, if you get a newbie who is nervous about changing an article, asking them to choose which picture to use and getting them to transform articles with pictures is very empowering. There's also pretty much zero risk of newbies getting edit conflicts or being bitten by patrollers. On 9 March 2016 at 16:36, Katherine Bavage <katherine.bavage(a)gmail.com mailto:katherine.bavage@gmail.com > wrote:

Typo! But, also, yes lets not train newbies to add images of genocide :/

Anyway, lets head off a debate about how much genocide is too much...thanks Jonathan, that's handy :) On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 at 16:34 Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com mailto:gordon.joly@pobox.com > wrote:

> On 09/03/16 16:32, Richard Symonds wrote: I think that word is "geocode", rather than genocide. But yes, if the word was genocide, then yes, that would be too genocidey.

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Charles Matthews

11 Mar 11 Mar

9:52 a.m.

New subject: Workshop postponed, was Re: Cambridge Images Workshop 19 March

Things have not gone well for the Images Workshop over the past week, so I'm postponing it. Any further developments will be announced here. Charles

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