Hi Chris, I know, I know, it's a huge problem we've been having. All the extensions are also down, and some domains like the QRPedia one and the stats.wikimedia.org.uk one are also not working, and have not been doing so for a while. I'm told that Tom Morton is trying to fix things but I think he's part time, and I keep on asking for updates about when things might be fixed, but I've not heard anyhting about when they might be fixed. Things are going as fast as he can manage, I suppose, but without a full time person to do this on staff, and with Tom the only person who has access to the server files, it's all going very slowly. Trust me nobody is more frustrated about it all than me. John Lubbock Communications Coordinator Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 203 372 0767 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1, Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ. Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open knowledge movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting Wikimedia UK? Donate here <https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk>. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 12:54, Chris McKenna &lt;cmckenna(a)sucs.org&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

Of WMF?

Trust me nobody is more frustrated about it all than me. The whole "three wise monkeys" approach by WMUK to its wiki has been going on for years, and is quite unacceptable. Charles _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list

Hi all, Thanks for that, Lucy. Might I suggest a small improvement which could be achieved for little expense is that you use both this list and the wiki to keep people informed. Please have a look at the Engine Room <https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Engine_room>. It is unfortunate that there has been no reply to Brian Kelly's inquiry about the VLE made back in August. Likewise, the outdated staff photo – dating from 2015 is still the one currently being used, despite the prompt dating from March 2018, which Michael kindly responded to over four months later. Perhaps if you could ensure that a member of staff is charged with checking this and responding to queries at the start of every week. This would only take five minutes most weeks, as the unresponsiveness on the wiki has meant there have only been 10 posts in all of 2018. Likewise the water cooler, where the sole inquirer for 2018 has been waiting four months for a response! Also I understand that Hannah Evans has left. I feel that people on this list had been informed. all the best, Fabian Tompsett aka Leutha On 30 November 2018 at 14:17 Lucy Crompton-Reid < lucy.crompton-reid(a)wikimedia.org.uk&gt; wrote: Hi all Thanks for your comments and suggestions about the chapter's Wiki, and related technical issues. There have been a few conversations around this at board and senior management level recently and we are aware that there is a need to improve our approach to technology both at an operational level (with some work currently happening on this front) and at a programmatic/strategic level (ditto). There is much more to be done however and we're aware that we also need to work more closely with the volunteer community on both the challenges and opportunities we're facing regarding technology - so please bear with us while we seek to address some of the issues highlighted (and others that haven't been!) Thanks and best Lucy On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 14:02, Fæ &lt;faewik(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 13:31, Charles Matthews &lt;charles.r.matthews(a)ntlworld.com&gt; wrote: Trust me nobody is more frustrated about it all than me. The whole "three wise monkeys" approach by WMUK to its wiki has been going on for years, and is quite unacceptable. Charles _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list Now would be a good time for the WMUK board to review whether having its own wiki is worth the on-going investment in scarce volunteer time or employee time. Running a blog does not need a wiki, and many other chapters happily use meta to publish reports and documents which can be discussed by anyone there, with zero budget or consultancy needed. When we created the charity's own wiki, there was a vibrant and highly active UK charity volunteer community of hundreds. A significant proportion of the most active volunteers used our entirely volunteer driven wiki to coordinate the projects and policies of the evolving charity. Those reasons no longer exist. Projects can, and probably should, be coordinated on WMF supported sites, such as project pages on Meta, Wikipedia and Commons, with the obvious benefits that volunteers globally can easily link to it, find it (via standard search), and participate, rather than being directed to a peculiar chapter wiki that they will have no special incentive to use for discussion and is increasingly subject to outage and maintenance headaches. For QRpedia, current and potential usage is far wider than the UK. Discussing its maintenance and long term future should be widely promoted and can easily justify a specific WMF funding case. Thanks Fae -- faewik(a)gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk -- Lucy Crompton-Reid Chief Executive Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 203 372 0762 *Wikimedia UK* is the national chapter for the global Wikimedia open knowledge movement, and a registered charity. We rely on donations from individuals to support our work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting Wikimedia? https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827 Registered Charity No.1144513 Registered Office Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

Engine Room

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On 01 December 2018 at 09:30 Jonathan Cardy &lt;werespielchequers(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: More radically, you could move the UK wiki to be a project on Meta.

I can’t think of anything we have ever gained from having our own independent Wiki as opposed to a project on Meta, unless you count independence and seperation from the rest of the movement as a positive.

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 15:42, &lt;leutha(a)fabiant.eu&gt; wrote: I suggest re-merging those pages. The level of traffic is not high and the benefits of splitting them were never clear.