So...
BrewDog, a Scotland-based "hipster brewery" - for want of a better phrase - have just "open-sourced" their entire recipe collection.
You can read more at https://www.brewdog.com/lowdown/blog/diy-dog.
It's not entirely clear what "licence" they're using but they say:
*"copy them, tear them to pieces, bastardise them, adapt them, but most of all, enjoy them. They are well travelled but with plenty of miles still left on the clock. Just remember to share your brews, and share your results. Sharing is caring."*
I guess "free as in beer" has a slightly different meaning now!
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Nice :)
On 29 February 2016 at 15:19, Richard Symonds < richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
So...
BrewDog, a Scotland-based "hipster brewery" - for want of a better phrase
- have just "open-sourced" their entire recipe collection.
You can read more at https://www.brewdog.com/lowdown/blog/diy-dog.
It's not entirely clear what "licence" they're using but they say:
*"copy them, tear them to pieces, bastardise them, adapt them, but most of all, enjoy them. They are well travelled but with plenty of miles still left on the clock. Just remember to share your brews, and share your results. Sharing is caring."*
I guess "free as in beer" has a slightly different meaning now!
Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992
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*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
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Well they definitely aren't adding either NC or ND, but they might be implying SA with all that sharing is caring stuff.
You could ask before migrating to wiki source, my guess is they are choosing CC-BY-SA
Regards
Jonathan / WereSpielChequers
On 29 Feb 2016, at 15:19, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
So...
BrewDog, a Scotland-based "hipster brewery" - for want of a better phrase - have just "open-sourced" their entire recipe collection.
You can read more at https://www.brewdog.com/lowdown/blog/diy-dog.
It's not entirely clear what "licence" they're using but they say:
"copy them, tear them to pieces, bastardise them, adapt them, but most of all, enjoy them. They are well travelled but with plenty of miles still left on the clock. Just remember to share your brews, and share your results. Sharing is caring."
I guess "free as in beer" has a slightly different meaning now!
Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
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Le lun. 29 févr. 2016 à 9:19, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk a écrit :
I guess "free as in beer" has a slightly different meaning now!
This is not the first time libre beer is made: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Beer
/"copy them, tear them to pieces, bastardise them, adapt them, but most of all, enjoy them. They are well travelled but with plenty of miles still left on the clock. Just remember to share your brews, and share your results. Sharing is caring."/
Homebrew licence.... just like the BBC!
Gordo
or the Homebrew Computer Club https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrew_Computer_Club !
all the best
Fabian
aka User:Leutha
On 29 February 2016 at 22:12 Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
/"copy them, tear them to pieces, bastardise them, adapt them, but most of all, enjoy them. They are well travelled but with plenty of miles still left on the clock. Just remember to share your brews, and share your results. Sharing is caring."/
Homebrew licence.... just like the BBC!
Gordo
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On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
So...
BrewDog, a Scotland-based "hipster brewery" - for want of a better phrase - have just "open-sourced" their entire recipe collection.
You can read more at https://www.brewdog.com/lowdown/blog/diy-dog.
It's not entirely clear what "licence" they're using but they say:
"copy them, tear them to pieces, bastardise them, adapt them, but most of all, enjoy them. They are well travelled but with plenty of miles still left on the clock. Just remember to share your brews, and share your results. Sharing is caring."
Ask them to clarify their license...? The PDF would be a great addition to Wikimedia Commons, if possible. However the inclusion of packaging diagrams in their PDF's recipes is likely to mean they dont want to release this PDF under generous terms, but instead this is a marketing gimmick only. If we can only get it without those packaging diagrams, that would still be good.
I guess "free as in beer" has a slightly different meaning now!
no, no this is not some magic moment of enlightenment.
similar sharing of beer recipes has occurred as long as beer has existed.
Even properly licensed shared beer brew recipes have been around for a *very* long time.
Even the US Whitehouse got in on the action
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wh_beer_recipe_both-o.svg
There are even companies that share their beer trademark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Beer
-- John Vandenberg
On 29/02/16 22:18, leutha@fabiant.eu wrote:
or the Homebrew Computer Club https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrew_Computer_Club!
all the best
Fabian
Homebrew also applies to amateur radio equipment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio_homebrew
TANSTAAFL!
Gordo
CONCERN Richard has never declared a conflict of interest vis a vis, his (supposedly possible potentially) significant shareholding in Brewdog. Could posting information about them here indirectly benefit him financially?
CONTEXT He has been seen drinking this beer on occasion, though my understanding is that he prefers American things like Sierra Pale Ale? Or all that small batch microbrewery stuff we don't get over here unless you want to pay through the nose.
ANALYSIS There would be a potential conflict of interest if there were any facts that potentially supported any of the above concerns. I'm not suggesting that there is one, but it's entirely possible and would constitute a gross ethical breach of some sort.
Best
Stuart
On 1 March 2016 at 08:58, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
On 29/02/16 22:18, leutha@fabiant.eu wrote:
or the Homebrew Computer Club https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrew_Computer_Club!
all the best
Fabian
Homebrew also applies to amateur radio equipment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio_homebrew
TANSTAAFL!
Gordo
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On 1 March 2016 at 05:21, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
no, no this is not some magic moment of enlightenment.
similar sharing of beer recipes has occurred as long as beer has existed.
Even properly licensed shared beer brew recipes have been around for a *very* long time.
Even the US Whitehouse got in on the action
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wh_beer_recipe_both-o.svg
There are even companies that share their beer trademark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Beer
-- John Vandenberg
The original freely licensed drink would be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola_(drink) from 2001. This resulted in a 2 page article in the new scientist (Feb. 2, 2002) that was also freely licensed (although I've not seen a copy since 2002).
On 01/03/16 18:06, geni wrote:
On 1 March 2016 at 05:21, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
no, no this is not some magic moment of enlightenment.
similar sharing of beer recipes has occurred as long as beer has existed.
Even properly licensed shared beer brew recipes have been around for a *very* long time.
Even the US Whitehouse got in on the action
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wh_beer_recipe_both-o.svg
There are even companies that share their beer trademark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Beer
-- John Vandenberg
The original freely licensed drink would be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola_(drink) from 2001. This resulted in a 2 page article in the new scientist (Feb. 2, 2002) that was also freely licensed (although I've not seen a copy since 2002).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Beer says:
*** Free Beer, originally known as Vores øl - An open source beer (Danish for: Our Beer), is the first brand of beer with an "open"/"free" brand and recipe.[3] The recipe and trademark elements are published under a Creative Commons license.[4] ***
Trademark number 1 was also beer related (Bass triangle).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_Brewery
Recipes in general are "open", are they not?
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl122.html
http://paleomagazine.com/recipe-copyright
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2006/mar/24/foodanddrink.uk
Gordo
. . . and if you are thinking of using one of these recipes, there's also some open source software to run on turn a fridge into a fermentation chamber . . .
all the best
Fabian
aka User:Leutha
On 04 March 2016 at 10:50 Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
On 01/03/16 18:06, geni wrote:
On 1 March 2016 at 05:21, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
no, no this is not some magic moment of enlightenment.
similar sharing of beer recipes has occurred as long as beer has existed.
Even properly licensed shared beer brew recipes have been around for a *very* long time.
Even the US Whitehouse got in on the action
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wh_beer_recipe_both-o.svg
There are even companies that share their beer trademark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Beer
-- John Vandenberg
The original freely licensed drink would be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola_(drink) from 2001. This resulted in a 2 page article in the new scientist (Feb. 2, 2002) that was also freely licensed (although I've not seen a copy since 2002).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Beer says:
Free Beer, originally known as Vores øl - An open source beer (Danish for: Our Beer), is the first brand of beer with an "open"/"free" brand and recipe.[3] The recipe and trademark elements are published under a Creative Commons license.[4]
Trademark number 1 was also beer related (Bass triangle).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_Brewery
Recipes in general are "open", are they not?
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl122.html
http://paleomagazine.com/recipe-copyright
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2006/mar/24/foodanddrink.uk
Gordo
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I stand corrected! Thanks all for the info :-P
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*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
On 4 March 2016 at 12:13, leutha@fabiant.eu leutha@fabiant.eu wrote:
. . . and if you are thinking of using one of these recipes, there's also some open source software to run on turn a fridge into a fermentation chamber . . .
all the best
Fabian
aka User:Leutha
On 04 March 2016 at 10:50 Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
On 01/03/16 18:06, geni wrote:
On 1 March 2016 at 05:21, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com
wrote:
no, no this is not some magic moment of enlightenment.
similar sharing of beer recipes has occurred as long as beer has
existed.
Even properly licensed shared beer brew recipes have been around for a *very* long time.
Even the US Whitehouse got in on the action
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wh_beer_recipe_both-o.svg
There are even companies that share their beer trademark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Beer
-- John Vandenberg
The original freely licensed drink would be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola_(drink) from 2001. This resulted in a 2 page article in the new scientist (Feb. 2, 2002) that was also freely licensed (although I've not seen a copy since 2002).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Beer says:
Free Beer, originally known as Vores øl - An open source beer (Danish for: Our Beer), is the first brand of beer with an "open"/"free" brand and recipe.[3] The recipe and trademark elements are published under a Creative Commons license.[4]
Trademark number 1 was also beer related (Bass triangle).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_Brewery
Recipes in general are "open", are they not?
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl122.html
http://paleomagazine.com/recipe-copyright
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2006/mar/24/foodanddrink.uk
Gordo
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