Hello,
unfortunately we have not received any replies after this thread. As I
understand it, there is some enthusiasm with individuals, but nobody is
prepared to take a lead, within or outside Wikimedia UK? Basically what you
need is two types of leadership:
1) someone to set up a primary structure on Wikipedia - basically a
Wikiproject - and motivates others to help out setting up the list system
(this is the most important and urgent job)
2) someone to do the real life part of the organization: organize a
brainstorm meeting, organize a meeting with the relevant authorities to get
the databases released if not yet available, to find sponsors, set up a
budget etc.
Any volunteers? I hope Wikimedia UK can pick up from here though ;-)
Thanks, Lodewijk
2011/2/4 effe iets anders <effeietsanders(a)gmail.com>
Hello all,
I know there has been some discussion about a Wiki Loves Monuments in
the UK, but I have heard little back after that. I think there is
definitely a lot of potential in the UK for setting up a project like
this, and hope that it would be possible to find the volunteers to run
this in the coming time.
Who can take the lead on this in the UK?
Please see
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2011-January/000001…
for my email and offer to join a brainstorm session if there would be
need/advantage for that. If that would help, I am more than happy to
join you guys somewhere reachable in a conversation on how to make
this happen. I got the suggestion the coming up London Meetup might be
helpful. Are there many interested people from outside London? Would
Wikimedia UK be able and willing to set up a meeting there and to
reimburse for example some travel costs for those outside London to
join the meeting? Just shooting some suggestions here, I'm sure you
can come up with better :)
Do remind please that to make this work, you really have to give this
a start in February, or it will be very hard to have the lists and
systems in place in time.
I look forward to your positive and constructive replies!
Lodewijk Gelauff
2010/12/15 Michael Peel <email(a)mikepeel.net>et>:
Forwarding with permission of the sender. I'm
very eager to see the UK
and
Ireland participate in this if possible, but from
my experience of
running
Britain Loves Wikipedia I'm very aware that
this needs a team of people
running it rather than just one person. So: is anyone interested in
leading/helping with this project?
Thanks,
Mike
Begin forwarded message:
From: Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>
Date: 14 December 2010 20:20:15 GMT
To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
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Subject: [Internal-l] Wiki Loves Monuments 2011 - Europe?
Reply-To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination \(closed
subscription\)" <internal-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Summary of this email (sorry for long text): We did Wiki Loves Monuments
(WLM) 2010 in the Netherlands, we would like to do Wiki Loves Monuments
again in 2011, but now in Europe. This is only possible when many
chapters
participate, therefore this e-mail. To be clear:
this event will only
happen
on a European level if there is sufficient
chapter participation to
combine
efforts. Please feel free to forward to whomever
you find appropriate.
You might have heard before about Wiki Loves Monuments 2010 in the
Netherlands. It was a highly successful photo scavenger hunt with 12.500
submissions and over 250 participants[0]. We recently completed a post
mortem of this event with a more extensive description and analysis [1].
However, there are still many monuments in the Netherlands which can be
photographed, so we are considering another run for next year - but then
in
a European context. Below we will explain a bit
how we got where we are,
what we have in mind, and what you could expect.
So how did this all start? At the Dutch Wikipedia we have the windmill
project. One of the main goals was to get an article with an image for
every
windmill in the Netherlands. Lists were created
of windmills per province
and statistics were made on a regular basis to track progress. This
approach
worked very well and made it possible to tackle a
big problem; All the
windmills have an article now.
Some volunteers, in cooperation with the chapter, managed to get a
dataset
of all "Rijksmonumenten" (Dutch
national monuments - 60.000
buildings/objects with some historical or cultural relevance) from the
"Rijksdienst voor het Cultureel Erfgoed" (Dutch national heritage
organisation, RCE). This marked the birth of the "Rijksmonumenten"
project.
The project uses the lessons learned in the
windmill project. The data
from
the RCE was converted into lists by location and
put on the Dutch
Wikipedia.
The community started improving the lists by
adding missing information
or
adding photo's.
In June 2009 Wikimedia Nederland ran Wiki Loves Art /NL [2] : A photo
scavenger hunt in more than 40 museums. Also quite successful (5.400
photos), but much more work intensive because you need to keep contacts
with
all the museums and usually museums are further
away from people's homes
than the nearest monuments.
For 2010 we were looking for a nice topic for a photo competition. The
"Rijksmonumenten" project was running very well so we decided to organize
Wiki Loves Monuments to give this Wikipedia project a boost.
So, what would a European WLM most likely look like? Let me give you an
idea
of what we are thinking of, changes are open for
debate of course. Trying
to
incorporate the main lessons from last year in
the Netherlands into a
European model, we think it might work best if Wiki Loves Monuments is
organized on a national level primarily, but with cooperations, shared
resources and international prizes on a European level. The national
contests do not have to be identical, but some consistency would be
practical. We are not sure yet what countries would be most successful,
but
our initial hope would be EU chapter countries
and Switzerland.
Basically, Wiki Loves Monuments would run 1-30 September 2011, and
participants would be allowed to submit photos of monuments which are
part
of the object list. This object list includes the
address and ideally
geo-coordinates of all monuments which are allowed to participate. In
each
participating country there would be some prizes
available, to be awarded
by
a jury for that country. The top-X of each could
be competing for
European
prizes.
You can find more information on how WLM 2010 was organized on the
post-mortem [1]. That also lines out in more detail how much work it
would
be, and what the positive impact could be.
Most of the local work would be to get a database with the objects,
create
object lists from that (possibly Dutch volunteers
could support you with
that, they have the experience [3]) and get the community involved on
that.
You would need to get communications going, both
external to the press
(press releases etc) as to participants (have a clear website in your
language(s) with explanation, rules etc), find a jury and prizes for them
to
award. We can help each other with example press
releases, best
practices,
template and list examples and community
motivation.
So, what to do when you like this idea? Well, it would be good to first
of
all check with your collegues (at the board,
other members, community)
what
they think of it. You probably need several
people to run such a
competition
over time to some extent. Next step would be to
do some analysis on your
local situation: who would be good partners (who keeps the lists of
monuments?) for you, how many monuments are there in your country, are
they
well spread? What information/photos are already
available of it roughly?
Are there community members involved in that kind of topic? Definitely
read
the post-mortem and some relevant links from
there [1].
For the time being, we registered
www.wikilovesmonuments.eu and are in
touch
with CARARE and Europeana (European cultural
heritage organizations) -
who
seem to be interested in laying contacts with
local cultural heritage
organizations. Hopefully that helps them to realize the European context
and
impact this could have. The most important
partner in each country would
be
the one that governs the database with all
monuments, and could release
that
to you. This database/list is crucial for the
success of such an event.
Please inform us (ideally through internal-l) when you would be
interested
in joining in such European event, if there is
enough enthusiasm, we will
create a special (easy to join) mailing list to coordinate efforts to
allow
more volunteers to join in the discussions. We
already took the liberty
of
discussing this with some other chapters, and are
hopeful that it will
actually get to a first grand chapter cooperation program. Of course this
does not mean you are bound, but that you think you would like to
participate. You can also join #wikilovesmonuments on freenode irc of
course
if you like.
With kind regards,
Maarten Dammers
Lodewijk Gelauff
[0]:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments
[1]:
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