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Jon

7 Feb 2006 7 Feb '06

3:18 a.m.

I don't think you'll be calling it Wikimania if it's held here. Someone else has just reserved the name: http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/7ad486b4e5c5061eafd24735179995fc//compdet… Kind regards Jon --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo.

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Gordon Joly

7 Feb 7 Feb

6:40 p.m.

At 19:18 +0000 6/2/06, Jon wrote:

I don't think you'll be calling it Wikimania if it's held here. Someone else has just reserved the name: <http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/7ad486b4e5c5061eafd24735179995fc//compdetails>http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/7ad486b4e5c5061eafd24735179995fc//compdetails Kind regards Jon

Wikimania Ltd was incorporated and registered at Companies House on 2nd February 2006 by Dr. Heinz W. Neuling of the Infochannel Group: see also http://www.jurablo.gs/ -- Gordo (aka LoopZilla) gordon.joly(a)pobox.com http://pobox.com/~gordo/ http://www.loopzilla.org/

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Jon

6:46 p.m.

http://www.wikimania.co.uk/ For German-readers wherever they may be in the UK. Jon Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote: At 19:18 +0000 6/2/06, Jon wrote:

I don't think you'll be calling it Wikimania if it's held here. Someone else has just reserved the name: http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/7ad486b4e5c5061eafd24735179995fc//compdet… Kind regards Jon

Wikimania Ltd was incorporated and registered at Companies House on 2nd February 2006 by Dr. Heinz W. Neuling of the Infochannel Group: see also http://www.jurablo.gs/ -- Gordo (aka LoopZilla) gordon.joly(a)pobox.com http://pobox.com/~gordo/ http://www.loopzilla.org/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail

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Scott Keir

8 Feb 8 Feb

7:30 a.m.

Hmm... I was about to say that just because a company name is registered, doesn't stop anyone from trading with that name... but the website associated with it is too close for comfort. Someone online and friendly during UK office hours might want to have a look around http://www.patent.gov.uk/tm/dbase/index.htm I hope that someone at the Foundation is appropriately protecting the various service marks of the Foundation as best they can as internationally as they can? (And yes, it is a certain irony that the information project that seeks to be free should restrict its name, but that's the best way to ensure the continued freedom and development of the information.) Scott On Tuesday, February 7, 2006, at 10:40 am, Gordon Joly wrote:

At 19:18 +0000 6/2/06, Jon wrote:

I don't think you'll be calling it Wikimania if it's held here. Someone else has just reserved the name: <http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/7ad486b4e5c5061eafd24735179995fc// compdetails>http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/ 7ad486b4e5c5061eafd24735179995fc//compdetails Kind regards Jon

Wikimania Ltd was incorporated and registered at Companies House on 2nd February 2006 by Dr. Heinz W. Neuling of the Infochannel Group: see also http://www.jurablo.gs/

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Andrew Walker

6:08 p.m.

Searching for marks beginning with wiki we get: TM Number Mark Text Type Date Status Classes E897769 WIKI WO 05.08.1998 Registered 25 E3082732 WIKING WO 04.03.2003 Registered 07 12 25 1355328 WIKINGER WO 19.08.1988 Registered 29 E4476032 Wiking-water WO 02.07.2005 New Application 32 E839132 Wikipedia WO 20.01.2005 New Application 41 U00000839132 Wikipedia WO 16.12.2004 New Application 41 E4620704 Wikipodo WO 28.09.2005 New Application 35 38 39 2395783 WIKI The Master of Tales SW 01.07.2005 Registered 09 41 42 E839132 and U00000839132 are held by the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. of 3911 Harrisburg St. NE, St. Petersburg, FL, United States, 33703. Wikipogo (E4620704) is in German and I don't know what it is for. The other marks are for "Clothing", "Apparatus for transporting people and/or goods on water, more specifically rubber dinghies", "foodstuffs in the form of prepared meals", "Beers; mineral and aerated waters and other non-alcoholic drinks" and "Computer games programs; on-line computer games software and programmes", respectivley. It would be good if the foundation registered the globe logo as well as the wikipedia name. I think the various other wiki names should also be registered, but I have no idea how much work is needed to do this. Cheers, Andrew On 2/7/06, Scott Keir <scottkeir(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Hmm... I was about to say that just because a company name is registered, doesn't stop anyone from trading with that name... but the website associated with it is too close for comfort. Someone online and friendly during UK office hours might want to have a look around http://www.patent.gov.uk/tm/dbase/index.htm I hope that someone at the Foundation is appropriately protecting the various service marks of the Foundation as best they can as internationally as they can? (And yes, it is a certain irony that the information project that seeks to be free should restrict its name, but that's the best way to ensure the continued freedom and development of the information.) Scott On Tuesday, February 7, 2006, at 10:40 am, Gordon Joly wrote:

At 19:18 +0000 6/2/06, Jon wrote:

I don't think you'll be calling it Wikimania if it's held here. Someone else has just reserved the name: <http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/7ad486b4e5c5061eafd24735179995fc// compdetails>http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/ 7ad486b4e5c5061eafd24735179995fc//compdetails Kind regards Jon

Wikimania Ltd was incorporated and registered at Companies House on 2nd February 2006 by Dr. Heinz W. Neuling of the Infochannel Group: see also http://www.jurablo.gs/

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Gordon Joly

7:26 p.m.

It would be good if the foundation registered the globe logo as well as the wikipedia name. I think the various other wiki names should also be registered, but I have no idea how much work is needed to do this. Cheers, Andrew

Surely it would be daft to try register all "wiki names" since "wiki" has been coined in many languages as the generic term? -- Gordo (aka LoopZilla) gordon.joly(a)pobox.com http://pobox.com/~gordo/ http://www.loopzilla.org/

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Jon

7:33 p.m.

Not only daft, also entirely unjustifiable. I'm surprised Wikimedia and Wikibooks haven't been registered though. Jon Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote:

It would be good if the foundation registered the globe logo as well as the wikipedia name. I think the various other wiki names should also be registered, but I have no idea how much work is needed to do this. Cheers, Andrew

Surely it would be daft to try register all "wiki names" since "wiki" has been coined in many languages as the generic term? -- Gordo (aka LoopZilla) gordon.joly(a)pobox.com http://pobox.com/~gordo/ http://www.loopzilla.org/ _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail

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Andrew Walker

8 p.m.

By "various other wiki names" I do, of course, mean wikibooks, wikimedia, wikisource... and so on. The foundation should probably also look at registering wikimainia, if that is always going to be the name of an annual conference. Andrew On 2/8/06, Jon <thagudearbh(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Not only daft, also entirely unjustifiable. I'm surprised Wikimedia and Wikibooks haven't been registered though. Jon Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote:

It would be good if the foundation registered the globe logo as well as the wikipedia name. I think the various other wiki names should also be registered, but I have no idea how much work is needed to do this. Cheers, Andrew

Surely it would be daft to try register all "wiki names" since "wiki" has been coined in many languages as the generic term? -- Gordo (aka LoopZilla) gordon.joly(a)pobox.com http://pobox.com/~gordo/ http://www.loopzilla.org/ _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK maili ng list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l ________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l

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Gordon Joly

9 Feb 9 Feb

8:06 p.m.

At 12:00 +0000 8/2/06, Andrew Walker wrote:

By "various other wiki names" I do, of course, mean wikibooks, wikimedia, wikisource... and so on. The foundation should probably also look at registering wikimainia, if that is always going to be the name of an annual conference. Andrew

OK. I see what you mean. How about "Wikipedia" as the name of the conference and then add a year, "Wikipedia 2006". An example from a related series of events: http://www2006.org/ -- Gordo (aka LoopZilla) gordon.joly(a)pobox.com http://pobox.com/~gordo/ http://www.loopzilla.org/

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Scott Keir

7:57 a.m.

Thanks Andrew. "Computer games programs; on-line computer games software and programmes" is the one that wikipedia-type activities would fall under. Intriguing that someone has trademarked Wiki for clothing (E897769) - I'm sure its a legitimate label, rather than trying to cash in/suppress any online wiki organisation from offering tshirts etc... And when looking for wikipodo, I found http://tinyurl.com/9yhwc which provides similar information (originally in German, with a servicable Google translation) Scott On Wednesday, February 8, 2006, at 10:08 am, Andrew Walker wrote:

Searching for marks beginning with wiki we get: TM Number Mark Text Type Date Status Classes E897769 WIKI WO 05.08.1998 Registered 25 E3082732 WIKING WO 04.03.2003 Registered 07 12 25 1355328 WIKINGER WO 19.08.1988 Registered 29 E4476032 Wiking-water WO 02.07.2005 New Application 32 E839132 Wikipedia WO 20.01.2005 New Application 41 U00000839132 Wikipedia WO 16.12.2004 New Application 41 E4620704 Wikipodo WO 28.09.2005 New Application 35 38 39 2395783 WIKI The Master of Tales SW 01.07.2005 Registered 09 41 42 E839132 and U00000839132 are held by the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. of 3911 Harrisburg St. NE, St. Petersburg, FL, United States, 33703. Wikipogo (E4620704) is in German and I don't know what it is for. The other marks are for "Clothing", "Apparatus for transporting people and/or goods on water, more specifically rubber dinghies", "foodstuffs in the form of prepared meals", "Beers; mineral and aerated waters and other non-alcoholic drinks" and "Computer games programs; on-line computer games software and programmes", respectivley.

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