I saw this post at the village pump suggesting wikimediauk's accounts are seriously late and this presents issues: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VP/M#Wiki_UK_Ltd_to_be_struck_off.3F The company in question is wikimedia UK (the Company No. 06741827 is consistent with that given in past emails) According to companies house the accounts were due 05/08/2010 and the company's status was listed as Active - Proposal to Strike off. Whats going on? -- geni _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Dear All, Just to follow up from Mike's previous email. I spoke to our accountants, UHY Hacker Young, earlier today and they are working on our accounts at the moment. The client manager was out of the office today but he will give me a ring tomorrow with an ETA for the draft accounts. The proposal for strike off looks alarming, but Companies House has given us until 9th February before any further action is taken. Our accountants have assured us that they will be able to turn things around quickly enough to avoid this outcome. Unfortunately, Companies House in England has an automatic policy of filing for winding up when the first set of accounts are late and they are not willing to suspend their proceedings until the accounts are filed. We can reassure you that there is no significant risk to donors' money from this procedure, given that our accounts are close to completion. However, we fully understand that this looks alarming and creates a bad impression. I apologise for any concern this has caused to any of our donors, members or supporters. I'll make sure I keep this list informed so you can monitor our progress with this matter. Regards, Andrew Turvey Chair, Wikimedia UK On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Michael Peel <email(a)mikepeel.net> wrote:

Dear All, As I promised before, here is a further update on our progress with our accounts. As I mentioned in my emails below, we were originally given a date of 17th December for receiving draft accounts from our accountants, UHY Hacker Young, which would have enabled us to file accounts with Companies House by the end of December. I was in constant touch with our accountants from 13th December until they left on 23rd December. Although they started work on the accounts on time, when they started to look at the information we had provided they were unable to read the GNUCash file which contains the detailed records. We have made some progress with converting the file into CSV format or similar but this has taken far longer that expected. They have now completed their work on the numbers but the extra work they had to do meant they have not yet completed their work on accounting disclosures and the independent review. Their scheduling peak regarding tax returns due at the year end and holidays over Christmas means they have not been able to dedicate any more staff to the work until the first week of January. However, we now have two staff dedicated full time to working on these accounts from today, Tuesday 4th January, and they now expect that they will be able to complete the accounts by 14th. Although this is all extremely disappointing, we should keep in mind that we are still on track to file the accounts before the final date for striking off. This means that all money received from our donors will be spent on supporting the goals and activities of the chapter and will not be lost to the movement. We are fully aware of the reputational impact this has on Wikimedia UK with potential donors, members and the Wikimedia Foundation. As mentioned previously, we are putting in additional processes to ensure that nothing like this happens again. Thank you for bearing with us over this and please let me know if you have any queries on this situation. Regards, Andrew Turvey Chair, Wikimedia UK Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited. Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United Kingdom. On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Andrew Turvey <andrewrturvey(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > Dear All, > > I promised I'd keep everyone on this list information about progress > with our accounts. Our accountants have now given us a date of 17th > December for completion of the draft accounts, subject to us providing > them with adequate explanations and information. The board is > committed to meeting its side of the agreement, which means we will be > in a position to file the signed accounts by the end of the month. > > At the same time, we are putting in place changes to our processes to > ensure that these problems do not cause us to be late with the > accounts next year or beyond. > > Thank you for your continued understanding with this and our apologies > once more for any concern caused. > > Regards, > > Andrew Turvey > Chair, Wikimedia UK > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Andrew Turvey > <andrewrturvey(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> Just to follow up from Mike's previous email. I spoke to our >> accountants, UHY Hacker Young, earlier today and they are working on >> our accounts at the moment. The client manager was out of the office >> today but he will give me a ring tomorrow with an ETA for the draft >> accounts. >> >> The proposal for strike off looks alarming, but Companies House has >> given us until 9th February before any further action is taken. Our >> accountants have assured us that they will be able to turn things >> around quickly enough to avoid this outcome. >> >> Unfortunately, Companies House in England has an automatic policy of >> filing for winding up when the first set of accounts are late and they >> are not willing to suspend their proceedings until the accounts are >> filed. >> >> We can reassure you that there is no significant risk to donors' money >> from this procedure, given that our accounts are close to completion. >> However, we fully understand that this looks alarming and creates a >> bad impression. I apologise for any concern this has caused to any of >> our donors, members or supporters. >> >> I'll make sure I keep this list informed so you can monitor our >> progress with this matter. >> >> Regards, >> >> Andrew Turvey >> Chair, Wikimedia UK >> >> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Michael Peel <email(a)mikepeel.net>

>>> I'll leave it to Tango and Andrew to provide the full story, but in a

>>> >>> This is essentially a symptom of us having too much to do and not

>>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 29 Nov 2010, at 21:04, geni wrote: >>> >>>> I saw this post at the village pump suggesting wikimediauk's accounts >>>> are seriously late and this presents issues: >>>> >>>>