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rexx

27 Sep 27 Sep

2:47 p.m.

Set up an "UK office hours" on IRC like the Foundation does. By the way, did you ever read Asimov's Foundation? They thought they were writing an encyclopedia as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_%28novel%29#The_Encyclopedists -- Doug On 27 September 2012 14:11, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

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I have had two email conversations this morning about hot and often perennial issues around editing, ethics etc. It strikes me that there is an appetite for having some osrt of debates, perhaps streamed, where people came together to debate hot issues, Any thoughts. -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

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WereSpielChequers

3:22 p.m.

I've taken part in some of the IRC office hours. The format works OK if everyone is being positive and just wants to question one person. It isn't so good if either the subject is so complex as to spark debate in various directions or the subject matter is contentious and tempers get frayed. So in the circumstances I'd suggest either a Wiki RFC or an in person meeting WSC On 27 September 2012 15:59, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

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People seem to want to meet face to face and exchange real words - can't imagine why? Perhaps the visit to the pub afterwards? On 27 September 2012 15:47, rexx <rexx(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Set up an "UK office hours" on IRC like the Foundation does. By the way, did you ever read Asimov's Foundation? They thought they were writing an encyclopedia as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_%28novel%29#The_Encyclopedists -- Doug On 27 September 2012 14:11, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk>wrote;wrote:

I have had two email conversations this morning about hot and often perennial issues around editing, ethics etc. It strikes me that there is an appetite for having some osrt of debates, perhaps streamed, where people came together to debate hot issues, Any thoughts. -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

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-- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

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WereSpielChequers

28 Sep 28 Sep

3:04 p.m.

I think it would be a mistake to start this on the UK Wiki. We have been more focussed on GLAM than some parts of the world, but this is an issue that people from across the movement are interested in. So if we start an RFC it belongs on meta, rather than with one chapter or language. I'm tempted to launch an RFC to codify and reaffirm the guidance that we got in 2010, my gut feel is that consensus would be more to remind ourselves of that, and especially the need to focus on the items in the collection, not on the institutions that hold them. WSC On 27 September 2012 20:38, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Obviously be interested in this debate. I think another possibility is to use a UK wiki talk page as a basis for the talk. One problem is agenda as WSC notes its very easy to have 4 parallel threads which just prevent any resolution or understanding of more than one thread. I'd be up for Jon's beer idea too *Oh and REXX - Foundation trilogy was one of my favourites although Asimov's later extentions to link the story with his robot series was a bit forced. I'm just reading SNOW CRASH by Neal Stephenson. Great book. In his world the Library of Congress has joined with CIA records to be a kind of wiki source where people load up facts and gossip to share with the world. - Its an addictive read* - e.g. The main character is called Hiro Protaganist and he delivers Pizzas in a guarenteed 30 mins or you can shoot the delivery boy! On 27 September 2012 16:22, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com

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I've taken part in some of the IRC office hours. The format works OK if everyone is being positive and just wants to question one person. It isn't so good if either the subject is so complex as to spark debate in various directions or the subject matter is contentious and tempers get frayed. So in the circumstances I'd suggest either a Wiki RFC or an in person meeting WSC On 27 September 2012 15:59, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk>wrote;wrote:

People seem to want to meet face to face and exchange real words - can't imagine why? Perhaps the visit to the pub afterwards? On 27 September 2012 15:47, rexx <rexx(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Set up an "UK office hours" on IRC like the Foundation does. By the way, did you ever read Asimov's Foundation? They thought they were writing an encyclopedia as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_%28novel%29#The_Encyclopedists -- Doug On 27 September 2012 14:11, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk>wrote;wrote: > I have had two email conversations this morning about hot and often > perennial issues around editing, ethics etc. It strikes me that there is > an appetite for having some osrt of debates, perhaps streamed, where people > came together to debate hot issues, > Any thoughts. > > > -- > *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 > 169 > tweet @jonatreesdavies > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England > and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. > Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, > London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global > Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia > Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. > > Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

-- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

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