Hi Rexx,
There are two types of geo targetted notice on wikis. Central notices such
as the ones used on the fundraiser and watchlist notices. Watchlist notices
only appear when you check your watchlist, central notices are served to
everyone who logs on. On EN wiki events are usually promoted by watchlist
notices.
Of course both work off the IP address and I don't know how many Scottish
editors use IPs that geolocate to a sassenach address.
There are also the editors who put in an hour or two a month and might not
see a watchlist notice if they didn't log in in the week it was up but
would get an email if someone put a note on their talkpage.
So for various reasons we can be pretty sure that talkpage messages will be
seen by many people who wouldn't see a watchlist message.
Regards
Jonathan Cardy
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On 17 March 2015 at 16:38, rexx <rexx(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Jonathan (and everybody else on the list),
If I remember correctly, the geonotices are targeted to a rectangular area
whose coordinates you supply, so it can be UK-wide or narrowed down to a
particular region. If you write the geonotice, you can determine who is
likely to see it, within the margin of error for geolocation of IPs, of
course.
As it's about as difficult to write a personal email as it is to write a
personal talk page message (possibly easier if you use MailChimp), I
wouldn't attach a lot of weight to the separate argument.
Cheers
--
Rexx
On 17 March 2015 at 10:24, Jonathan Cardy <jonathan.cardy(a)wikimedia.org.uk
wrote:
Hi Rexxs, I use my watchlist and my home pc gets
watchlist messages
geotargetted to London and the south east. But I don't know what proportion
of other editors use their watchlist, or what proportion have an ip address
that we geocode to the right region. So yes I would suggest using talkpage
messages as well. But i have no knowledge as to the proportion of Scottish
editors whose IP geolocates to Scotland, and without knowing that you can't
know how effective this might be.
Then of course there is the separate argument that a personal note on
your talkpage is more, well personal.
On 16 Mar 2015 22:22, "rexx" <rexx(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Ally, the problem I foresee is that if your
casual Scottish contributor
doesn't see the notifications because he isn't logged in, he won't see your
talk page messages (because he isn't logged in).
The low-tech solution is to collect email addresses of folks who are
interested in meetups and make them into a mailing group - then send out a
group email with the url of the signup page as soon as you know about a
meetup.
--
Rexx
On 16 March 2015 at 20:32, Charles Matthews <
charles.r.matthews(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 16 March 2015 at 14:56, Crockford, Ally
<a.crockford(a)nls.uk> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been having a think about meetups and regional outreach. A
> casual/occasional contributor in Scotland mentioned that he didn't know
> about the meetups until too late and would have been interested in coming,
> but as he wasn't always logged in he was missing the notifications and
> wasn't seeing notices elsewhere.
>
> I was wondering whether it would be possible to track a specific
> category's newly-added users (i.e. users who add [[Category:Wikipedians in
> Scotland]], to make it easier to post messages about meetups etc. on talk
> pages?
>
> I know I've been contacted on my talk page as part of the Gender Gap
> task force for things, but I'm not sure whether that was someone manually
> contacting participants or if there's a way to streamline this.
>
> Any thoughts or input would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Two thoughts.
First, going back before the watchlist notices, which in fact were a
revolution in meetup organisation, I did leave numerous talk page
invitations, based on categories and other indications on user pages. I put
in a couple of hours pasting each time.
Second, current conditions are convincing me that I should probably
find out about Eventbrite pages, since at least in Cambridge they seem to
be part of the expected publicity effort in our general sector.
I'm actually also using standard techniques - email invitations and a
list - which are lo-tech by today's standards. I think there is a point
here about diversity of attendance, because one-club golf in publicising
events leads to homogeneity.
Charles
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