For the record, I think this is the sort of cause that WMUK should be seen to be aligned with. Surveillance of your access to information is a form of cost, especially when the information you access potentially covers all topics. It's an unconventional kind of cost (and some people wouldn't even call it that) but if you give up privacy to find and use information, that's a sense in which you're paying for it.* We work for access to knowledge which is free, in multiple senses, and universal as far as possible, so I think a campaign for sensible restrictions on surveillance is something we should be aligned with. I hope, but don't presume, that others share this opinion, and I guess this is also the thinking behind Stevie's question. 

Apologies if this is "mansplaining": I expect readers already understand this.


On 28 November 2013 15:23, Martin Poulter <infobomb@gmail.com> wrote:
Fae, Stevie hasn't said there were "out of scope" objections, he's just open-mindedly consulting us about whether we think it's out of scope.


On 28 November 2013 15:18, Fæ <faewik@gmail.com> wrote:
On 28 November 2013 13:24, Stevie Benton <stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Wikimedia UK has been asked to consider signing a document supporting these
> International Principles on the Application of Human Rights to
> Communications Surveillance In principle I think this is worthwhile and
> shows that we are on the side of the every day internet user. But some may
> say it is out of our scope. What do people think? If there's a consensus
> I'll add Wikimedia UK to the list.
>
> This can be discussed on this list or on the Water Cooler of the WMUK wiki
> if you prefer.

What were the "out of our scope" objections?

Thanks,
Fae
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