Hi Roger,
I feel sorry for you that you have the feeling that you went out for nothing. However, you did surely add to the wealth - having multiple photos of something is also worth something.
A categorization project sounds great, but should probably not be called 'wiki loves monuments' to avoid confusion. It is also much less useful to new users, the main target group of Wiki Loves Monuments. We shouldn't bother them with Commons' horrible categorization structure - they should just identify what is on their photo, and we can (automagically) take it from there thanks to the (to be built) database.
If you want to motivate people from our communities to categorize pictures, that would be a nice project in its own right. Perhaps it would be nice to do *before* wiki loves monuments - so that both get maximum effect?
Lodewijk
No dia 30 de Janeiro de 2012 15:29, Roger Bamkin
<victuallers@gmail.com> escreveu:
Anecdotal story: My wife decided to take me outside for a trip and asked where I wanted to go. I'd recently seen a tool by Magnus Mankse called Shoot me which lists out all the wiki articles geo tagged near you that lacked pics. So I quickly went
http://toolserver.org/~magnus/wikishootme/index.html
and that listed out half a dozen useful places near me that lacked pics. We went out .... took the pics and when I went to load them I found out that all these pictures already existed ..... they were uncategorised, but there. I think I loaded some *new* pix but I'm not sure I added much to "the wealth".
So if our objective is to "supply everything to everyone" (paraphrase our vision), then first we need a copy of everything. It could be that we already have a copy of nearly everything if we could just sort out what we had and what we lacked. However the chances of running a successful UK categorisation project is low..... or is it?
Do you know I just typed the last sentence and realised that that is what we want. We want a categorisation project. What we know will appeal is a successful photography project. Hmmm
UK WIKI LOVES MONUMENTS - wacky proposal
Prize goes to the best five media files in a complete Wiki-Commons-Category
Entrants will ensure that they use a valid commons category for a village, road, type of monuments etc. They will populate that category with as many photos and videos and sounds as possible. They are invited to add their own pictures, viideo and sounds but also to collect as many freely sourced files they can find from other sources too.
Judges will look at wikimedia commons pages, wikipedia, wikisource etc pages that use or could use these resources. They will choose the winning category and the five media files that best illustrate its reason for winning. This is a "beauty" competition that is is not just based on the quality of the media but also the quantity, meta data and completeness of the chosen category.
So thats an idea for what might work Please feel free to ignore, delete or modify--
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