James,

"Should some Directors appointed under these Rules be required, under Article 16.2, to retire at the next Annual General Meeting, those Directors shall be those who received the fewest first preferences. In the event of a tie, a teller shall draw lots prior to announcing the result. The announcement of the results shall include a statement indicating which of the elected candidates are required to retire at the next Annual General Meeting."

This is not the spirit of STV/ERS97. The algorithm produces a strict order of preference (ie. order of election) of the candidates, which we should use to determine who gets a longer term.

(Ref: ERS97 5.1.7: Considering each candidate in turn in descending order of their votes, deem elected any candidate whose vote equals or exceeds (a) the quota[...])

If we want to preserve the "approval voting" element of the election, a "RON" (re-open nomination) candidate may be introduced to the election. Once RON is declared elected, its place and all subsequent (unfilled) places are declared re-open.

Deryck

On 17 September 2012 23:26, James Farrar <james.farrar@gmail.com> wrote:
OK, here's a very quick first draft of the motion and election rules for STV.

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LondonStatto/Proposed_EGM_Motion_on_Voting_System 

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:LondonStatto/Proposed_STV_Election_Rules 

Thoughts, questions, suggestions all gratefully received. I'm not at work tomorrow so will do my best to monitor email/talk pages.

J.


On 17 September 2012 23:03, James Farrar <james.farrar@gmail.com> wrote:
Certainly my sense of the various discussions over the past 18 months is that there's near-consensus on STV as the best alternative to the current system. I intend to draft a motion with new election rules for STV; if anyone has other systems they'd like to put forward I'll be happy to draft election rules for them.

However, if we have more than two systems to choose between, we then have to decide which system to choose to decide which system we use...


On 17 September 2012 22:54, rexx <rexx@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
The problem probably lies with the volume of business on each board meeting agenda. We're only just keeping up with the business, and as much as I'd like to see a constructive discussion and a positive decision made on the future election process, I personally won't find the time in the near future to organise an EGM.

I'm encouraged by James' offer, and the more volunteers we have who would be willing to devote some time into defining the parameters for discussion (maybe a proposer and seconder for a resolution?), or suggesting possible timescales and venues for an EGM, the easier it gets to fulfil our commitment to having a new process in place by the next AGM.

All contributions are welcome.

--
Doug



On 17 September 2012 22:24, James Farrar <james.farrar@gmail.com> wrote:

Now that I am no longer in the process of getting married, I can start making some progress on this.

On Sep 17, 2012 9:48 PM, "Chris Keating" <chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
Chris, if I may at least ask for a very short clarification of the no: are you confirming there has been no communication/decision on the issue on board level, or do you confirm there will be no such EGM (as far as the board is concerned)? 

There has been no progress. :-)

Personally I would quite like some progress, and think we ought to use STV - it would be great if people could get drafting resolutions.

Thanks,

Chris

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