Do you think that's a bad thing Andy?
Thanks for the additional info; I'm familiar with the history. My
point is that - for whatever reason - the CIPR guidelines are stricter
than Wikipedia's own, and we need to be mindful of that.
On 15 November 2012 10:58, Stevie Benton <stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
> Thanks for your email Andy. I've already requested they correct that error.
>
> With regards to your point about COI editing - the guidelines the CIPR refer
> to were developed with WMUK, some Wikipedians and some people from CIPR and
> PRCA. The development took place on the WMUK Wiki and was widely shared and
> people were encouraged to participate.
>
> Regardless of whether there is a total prohibition on editing article spaces
> directly in EN:WP policy, we have seen (many, many times) that when PR
> professionals directly edit article space bad things happen. Even if edits
> are benign and factual, if it comes to light that they were made directly by
> PRs acting on behalf of a client, nobody wins and a COI is automatically
> assumed by many. It's not good for trust in Wikipedia, it's not good for the
> PR industry and it's not good for their clients.
>
> If you'd like some more background on the development of the guidance, a
> good place to start is at
> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Draft_best_practice_guidelines_for_PR
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stevie
>
>
>
> On 15 November 2012 10:51, Andy Mabbett <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> On 15 November 2012 10:09, Stevie Benton <stevie.benton@wikimedia.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > PR Week have published another story on this -
>> > http://www.prweek.com/uk/news/1159715/wikipedia-defends-editing-processes-following-finsbury-clean-up/
>>
>> They have you as "Wikipedia [with a "p"] UK comms organiser". is
>> suspect we may never win that battle.
>>
>> I note that it is claimed (and I don't doubt) that the "CIPR [...]
>> guidance for PROs [is that] they should not directly edit Wikipedia
>> pages relating to their organisation or a client". I should like
>> people to be mindful that that's not what en.Wikipedia's CoI guidance
>> says; there has never been consensus for a total prohibition (though I
>> acknowledge that some feel strongly that there should be).
>>
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