I was going to say pretty much the same thing. This list is for discussions of interest to the UK community. WMUK is *part* of that community, and its business will be of interest to a large proportion of the community, so this list is exactly the right place for it.
Harry
________________________________ From: James Farrar james.farrar@gmail.com To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, 22 April 2012, 13:35 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec
On the general point, it is my opinion that the Charity is a subset of the UK community; much as with a square and a rectangle, all that is Charity-related is ipso facto UK community-related; but not all that is UK community-related is necessarily Charity-related. There's probably a technical term that logicians use to describe this, and no doubt someone will now embarrass me by posting a link to the relevant Wikipedia article... On the specific point, and now with my Teller's hat on, items directly related to the business of the AGM including ballot papers go only to members, which is why Richard sends them as he has access to the membership database. Obviously we are checking that votes are cast only by members. On Apr 22, 2012 12:29 PM, "WereSpielChequers" werespielchequers@gmail.com wrote:
For what its worth, I would prefer that WMUK matters are included to this list rather than have a separate mailing list. In my view the amount of UK specific Wikimedia Email has not yet got to the point where we need to subdivide the list. I'm sure the tellers will only allow members of the charity to vote at the AGM, and it is at that point that we really need to differentiate between UK Wikimedians who are or are not members of WMUK.
WSC
On 22 April 2012 11:48, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
On 21/04/12 21:24, Thomas Morton wrote:
The line at which the chapter ends and the community begins is very blurred
Not in UK law. The Charity has members (and Trustees and staff). The membership have obligations in law. They are responsible, for example, for electing the Trustees and appointing the auditors, to name but two actions they perform.
I don't think anyone is unclear of the legal position. However, the charity also has a duty to look beyond its membership to the Wikimedia community and indeed to the general public.
As it happens, this list is one of our important (albeit limited) ways of reaching out to active Wikimedians in the UK, regardless of whether they are members of the charity or not.
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