Jan-Bart,
The problems at Wikimedia UK, while certainly very concerning, haven't involved any misuse of funds, so it is very disappointing that the WMF has used this as an excuse to stop Wikimedia UK taking part in the fundraiser. This decision will cost the movement a lot in wasted time and money spent preparing for this fundraiser and in lost donations and gift-aid.
You could have waited for the independent report before making any decisions, since there is no reason to believe Wikimedia UK can't be trusted with funds (and their eligibility for the FDC hasn't been revoked, so clearly the WMF does trust them with funds).
Hi David,
I do assume that people have been following the payment processing discussion but I also assumed that they would find these developments important enough to see that there is no way we can just move on from this point.
I repeat my statement which I made at Wikimania: I am very happy that the chapters are moving towards a Chapters Association which will hopefully play a very constructive role in situations like this. I am disappointed that the Association isn't farther along the road because that could have been very helpful at this point. The chapters are an essential part of the movement and if the foundation is forced into this kind of relationship with chapters all the time it will keep us achieving our goals and working together constructively.
Jan-Bart de Vreede
On 29 sep. 2012, at 17:57, David Gerard <dgerard@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 29 September 2012 16:28, Jan-bart de Vreede <jdevreede@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> What I find puzzling in your reasoning is that you automatically assume bad
>> faith on the part of the WMF.
>
>
> I find it puzzling that you assume that people aren't generally aware
> of the long and acrimonous discussions of payment processing over the
> past year, and quite surprised that you are puzzled that people put
> this in the context of that.
>
>
> - d.
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