Im not sure paying for commercial closed source software is really
necessary at this point. There are plenty of open source alternatives:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software#Free_.2F_Open_So
urce_Software
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_software_packages#Video_edi
ting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_editing_software
http://freshmeat.net/browse/256/
http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=256
This one seems to be the preferred bit of software for videos for
MediaWikis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaltura
Tom
From: wikimediauk-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of joseph
seddon
Sent: 03 August 2008 15:29
To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Records & Oxford stuff
The logos that i have been working on will be hopefully all uploaded today,
but i havn't actually finished the work regarding
the logo. I have produced through a working progress approximately 18
different logos and banners for wikimania, and i
have been playing around with a possible logo that users could freely use in
regards to the uk wikimedia community. How
these are to be used will be entirely up to everyone else. I'm simply having
some fun with photoshop. I have some mroe
ideas about the logo but i will start a separate thread with them. With
regards to the video Tom mentioned, its something
i intend working on soon but i am hoping to try and purchase some software
from adobe that will enable me to do this well.
I have had experience with both basic and advanced video editing software.
The
first being the the bog standard windows movie maker and the advanced one
being Adobe after effects and adobe
premiere. The two adobe programme's are possible some of the best software
on the market. Me being a student makes
it a lot easier to afford those programmes via student versions, which i
believe are only limited on things like not being able
to produce in HD which in all honesty i don't have the hard drive capacity
to be doing right now :) In numbers i can get a
software package that would cost £1600 for around £280. Now i may be able to
purchase this myself but if but hopefully
when WMUK has money, if they would be able to cover all or prehaps even just
part of the costs it would be more likely
for me to be able to access it. I believe there are also non profit options
that adobe which allow the use of the
programmes on several computers which is also at a reduced price. The
production of the video whether with or with out
these programmes will take a while somewhere in the region of several weeks
to build from scratch. Video production is
slow and painstaking so results are slow so patience will be needed. With
regards to the video, if someone with more experiance in video editting
wants to do this then feel free to do it :)
Regarding the logo, please come to me on irc with any suggestions for the
main reason that at the speed and amount of
time at which im producing these, means suggestions are a lot more helpful
in real time. If any are made on the mailing list
then if they could be relayed to me i can work on them much faster. I will
upload the images later today to commons and
then later on but before then ill post to the list all the links to the
various versions i have been working on so far that have
been uploaded off wiki. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
_____
From: thomas.holden(a)gmail.com
To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 23:21:58 +0100
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Records & Oxford stuff
What was Alison's bank idea shortcut sorry?
As I said before we'll have a definite answer from the OII in
mid-September.
But they're already doing quite a bit of work for
us already and I'm in
reasonably regular correspondence with them.
As for start up donations I imagine it would depend on what you were
offering in exchange. I doubt anyone would give you £150 for nothing in
return... And for lifetime membership my poll on pledgebank wasn't exactly
have a resounding success (only one person other than me signed up).
Lowering it to £150 and letting people pay through the year might help
though. Creating a new pledge on pledgebank is the easiest way to see.
Have
you had confirmation from Alison that she's
prepared to offer lifetime
membership for £150?
Re: presentation materials, the way negotiations have progressed so far
there hasn't been a massive need for them and I'm not massively convinced
they'd ever be particularly appropriate. The people we're pitching too
know
what Wikipedia is and it takes about 30 seconds to
explain what Wikimania
is. (Being concise is usually a good thing.) Our credibility is
established
by the people we already have on board, and I imagine
at meetings with
large
sponsors someone from the OII will rightly want to
come along as well.
That
said we do actually have someone ([[User:Seddon]])
working on improving
our
presentation with various logos and (he tells me)
videos in the works.
In any case your help with our bid would of course be appreciated, but
perhaps in the short term the greatest help you could be to the Oxford
Wikimania bid is by ensuring WMUK becomes a charity as soon as possible.
If
you have any specific advice or contacts you'd
like to share by all means
e-mail me off list though.
Thanks, and good luck in your dealings with WMF.
Tom
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From: wikimediauk-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of
Businessfirst
Sent: 02 August 2008 22:42
To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Records & Oxford stuff
Arkady says Wikimedia Educational Resources' records will be updated soon
(go, Arkady!!). I've raised the finance/charity related things with the
board, and by email with Cary and WMF, so far so good. We're also all
waiting for news if Alison's bank idea shortcut works, but they probably
won't have a reply this week.
Oxford sounds great. When will they be ready to come back to us?
Other stuff...
The student club idea's great, but will a
research/editing club really be appealing or what would attract people
and make them stick past college?
If we did seek startup donations of "a sum of your choice between £150 and
£250" contingent on charity
registration and say payable over 12-15 months to kickstart the charity,
how
many would be
interested?
I've also done some work on a basic presentation for the banks before now
that we could adapt, if anyone wants to start a team to work on presenting
and promoting, and designing promotional material. I've got a lot of
commercial experience in the conference business that might help (mostly
commercial conferences and 10 years ago but I might have an odd contact
from
those days for organization, information and planning
ideas).
Re materials, if we're researching venues and accomodation, then
promotional
materials helps everyone when we're pitching for
support and facilities,
we
can put them online to get early traction for the bid.
Things like theme +
banners, handouts, multimedia
presentations, mail-outs/leaflets can help a lot if we need to
pitch to anyone and we'd need them anyway. Anyone with flash, web,
marketing
and promotion, or graphic design skills who wants to
grab this and get the
team going?
Paul Sinclair.
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