Just another few thoughts into banking, as we're going to have to look
at this fairly soon after we become an official charity. Gift Aid and
standard donations could easily run up to £10,000+ with a fundraiser and
the Gift Aid on that counts for a fair amount too! ;)
At work we use Unity Trust Bank, who specialise in charities, membership
organisations and trade unions. Some might see them as slightly more
ethical in line with the goals of Wikipedia.
http://www.unity.uk.com
They have several types of account, some of which may be of use to us.
Before we decide though we would need to work out what sort of
transactions we may be carry out. (i.e. frequent/infrequent transfers,
would the remaining balance be large/small).
It crossed my mind today, so any other thoughts (other banks, ideal
accounts) are appreciated :)
Thanks,
Greg
I just joined the list on reading the
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK page. I am
very interested in the promotion of open-source
knowledge, and educational use within the UK. The
prospect of a UK chapter is very exciting.
I am the owner of http://wikipedia.org.uk, mentioned
on the page. I registered it to avoid unfriendly
squatting on the address and would be willing to
assign it to wikimedia-uk at whatever point it becomes
a legally recognised educational charity, and redirect
it as required up to that point.
Chris
On 12/27/05, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
>
> There has been suggestion that next business meeting should coincide
> with Birmingham "Wikipedia meet up" on Saturday, 21st January 2006.
>
I might not be able to make this meeting now - but I'll try. If I
don't get there, hope it all goes well..
Cormac
As it looks like many of us are planning to be in Birmingham (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Birmingham) it would be
a good use of time to hold a business meeting then too. However, it
may be worth holding the meeting an hour or so earlier than the
not-yet-advertised start time of the meetup so that we can rapidly
make decisions on the items that need to be agreed before we
incorporate.
As far as I can see all that remains is:
(1) to agree changes to agree changes to the articles and memorandum
of association (I think we are still awaiting Diane Cabell's report on
the articles);
(2) finalise a name (or has this been done);
(3) choose an initial board (who can deal with registering a a
charity, setting up gift aid, signing a copyright deal with the
foundation, writing the bylaws for different membership categories,
opening a bank account and setting up the first AGM); and
(4) agree a time and place when enough of us can meet with a solicitor
to sign the articles.
Andrew(w)
On 12/27/05, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote:
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>
> There has been suggestion that next business meeting should coincide
> with Birmingham "Wikipedia meet up" on Saturday, 21st January 2006.
>
> We probably need to meet up once more, either on IRC or in personal
> to agree all the documents, names, etc for incorporation.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
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There has been suggestion that next business meeting should coincide
with Birmingham "Wikipedia meet up" on Saturday, 21st January 2006.
We probably need to meet up once more, either on IRC or in personal
to agree all the documents, names, etc for incorporation.
Any thoughts?
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gordon.joly(a)pobox.com
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Hi everyone,
Just thought I'd add my little bit to the hard work that is going into
starting up the UK Chapter :)
I'd like to say now that I'd bee keen to help with this side of the
operation, as I'm currently working for a charity, and will be setting
up the Gift Aid system in the new year for them.
Outline
^^^^^^^
This post details about claiming Gift Aid for UK citizens: what it is,
how to claim it etc.
I'd like to say now that **I would be keen to help with this side of the
operation**, as I'm currently working for a charity, and will be setting
up the Gift Aid system in the new year for them.
Anyway... here's an executive outline of what the Inland Revenue have to
say...
For those who may not be aware, the government tops up donations so long
as you are earning more than the gifted amount in Income Tax and/or
Capital Gains Tax in the given tax year.
This currently works out at 28p for every pound. The end result is that
if that a member of the public donates £50.00, the nice tax people give
us another £14 :)
The outcome (est.)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The 2005 Q3 fundraiser, got $200,000 of which around 10% [estimate] was
in UK Pounds. This equates to £11,400. If we could claim gift aid on 75%
of donations, we would have an extra £2,400. Multiplied over four
quarters, it could mean an extra £10,000 a year. And with growing
donations, would come growing Gift Aid... :)
What we need to do
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
1) Registering...
Most of this post comes from the Inland Revenue (or Her Majesty's
Revenue and Customs as they are now known).
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/charities/http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/charities/claim_tax_back.htm
Once we have sent off the form and registered, we need to appoint an
official to make the claims. Ideally Treasurer, but if they are too
busy, then someone else who doesn't mind the paperwork.
2) Knowing who is eligible
When we are up and running, we will probably want to intercept people
before they pay via their Paypal link in order to ask them if we can
claim Gift Aid on their donation. The Inland Revenue has a sample form.
http://tinyurl.com/7kgg2
It is quite simple, and is merely a record of name/address and the amount.
3) Claiming
Involves a couple of forms; a top sheet:
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/charities/r68_2000.pdf
...and a sheet detailing each individual payment (hopefully several
copies of this per application!)...
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/charities/r68_f.pdf
Then they send us more money :D (read on for how)
FAQ:
^^^^
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/charities/faq_tax_back.htm
In short, they like it if you claim for £100 at a time, and they send
you a cheque within 10 days :D [Imagine that: a cheque *from* the Inland
Revenue]
This is all summarised from the Inland Revenue website, for extra detail
visit the Charity part of their website.
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/charities/
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On 12/22/05, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote:
> Does you mean Stefan Magdalinski?
Yes, and also Anno Mitchell. I've emailed Stefan to see if he's the
best person to contact about this.
Angela.
>To be locally based lackeys for WMF. We don't give them money, we give
>them useful assistance of a form yet to be specifically determined.
>Also, the chapter will have headed paper and a familiar name, which
>has the potential for interesting applications in the door-opening
>line.
I was speaking to a politician a few days ago about what I do with
myself. Let me say that one startlingly important thing we can do is
to double-check and make sure *every* politician above the dog-catcher
level in the UK has a decent-quality article. (This one does.)
[cc to wikimediauk-l]
- d.
Below is from [[:en:WP:ANI]]. What on earth? How does "fair use"
magically not apply?
- d.
DSM-IV-TR Copyright question
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Narcissistic_personality_disorder
There is a question being raised concerning whether the reproduction
of DSM-IV-TR criteria on several articles without permission from the
APA constitutes breach of copyright and whether the administration of
Wikipedia could or should seek the relevant permissions or the removal
of such text? Personally I should like to request the permissions be
sought --82.195.137.125 19:04, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
I have responded to this at the relevant talk page, and suggested
that relevant quotations are within the bounds of fair use. Other eyes
may be welcome on that issue. Dragons flight 21:20, 17 December 2005
(UTC)
[Response re: DSM-IV-TR criteria (all identifiers removed,
original forwarded to permissions(a)wikipedia.org):
We are inclined to deny Wikipedia permission to use our
content as we do not allow anyone to alter our material and we do not
want our material posted online. I can assure you that we have
complete rights to our material and Fair Use does not apply to DSM
material or any other APA/APPI content.
I find this a LITTLE bit scary in it's wider implications
--82.195.137.125 05:15, 20 December 2005 (UTC)]
Also completely wrong. Of course it fucking applies.
Perhaps they could work with the National Gallery on this one - David
Gerard 12:26, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
[Better idea David could you see your way to making
your case to them (I have already made mine)? Here is contact page
http://appi.org/permissions.cfx and post any results here? (repeating
on your talk page). "Inclined" is, to my mind, a word that is still
open to negotiation --82.195.137.125 13:22, 20 December 2005 (UTC)]
Now it's Monday, has James heard back from this Diane (who I took to be a charity lawyer but he didn't say)?
Jon
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